Future Plans for Equipment

[Calatilla]

I miss voidwatch if only because it was content where people actually wanted me to play on BLU. Now, ha ha ha... nothing.

Being asked to go BLU to VW wasn't playing BLU, you were just a BLM in a different outfit, the reason it was and still is difficult to find a BLU to do VW with is because nobody likes sitting in the back row on BLU. You're there for procs, nothing else.

[Martel]

O think it is a smart move on SE to outdate 90 Ochains and instruments. I mean think about it, if your main job was brd or pld why should of you bought SOA? As a company SE wants to sell copies of the expansion, but there was nothing to offer a pld or brd. In addition they could just bought lvl 117 weapons on the AH. So to sell copies they should of had something to offer these two jobs long ago.

As a 119 R/E owner I did feel annoyed that I had to 119 my weapons but lvl 90 was ok for those two jobs.

Thank you SE.

Now just upgrade empy armor.

Except they haven't outdated Ochain in the slightest. Just narrowed the gap between it and the next best shield somewhat.

As a 90 Ochain owner, I'm annoyed that the upgrade to 99 is nearly pointless. And that there isn't even a 119 at all. -.- I'd much rather there have been some benefit to taking Ochain up to 99. But it's just not worth the gil just to get a few points of VIT and a bit more mp convert.

[Selindrile]

Being asked to go BLU to VW wasn't playing BLU, you were just a BLM in a different outfit, the reason it was and still is difficult to find a BLU to do VW with is because nobody likes sitting in the back row on BLU. You're there for procs, nothing else.

I was happy to be whatever the party wanted on VW, playing on the back-line didn't mean I got any less rewards, I'd much rather "back-line Blu" than "not-invited Blu".

I remember back when Blu first came out, many, many times I'd end up going Blu/Whm and curing/debuffing, because there weren't enough Whms and Rdms to go around and it may not have been optimal but I remember it being far better than I expected the first time I tried it.

My only gripe about proc-blu was having to change my spells mid-fight to cover them all if I was the only one. >.>

But yeah, at the end of the day, I think most people just want to be able to participate in these events, even if they might not get to do it the way they want. I mean Schs are invited to Delve for stuns and nothing else, but I think generally they're happy to get to go at all, rather than just having nothing to do now that embrava's nerfed. And I'm pretty sure Smns long for the day when they got to Perfect Defense endgame things cuz at least that meant they got to go Smn even if they might've secretly wished they were there just do damage primarily instead of support.

[Kimjongil]

Except they haven't outdated Ochain in the slightest. Just narrowed the gap between it and the next best shield somewhat.

As a 90 Ochain owner, I'm annoyed that the upgrade to 99 is nearly pointless. And that there isn't even a 119 at all. -.- I'd much rather there have been some benefit to taking Ochain up to 99. But it's just not worth the gil just to get a few points of VIT and a bit more mp convert.

I agree with you a 99 Ochain should have had more benefit over 90. Same for most empys. As an empy staff and club holder I feel II got shafted with WOE, and just unlock it. But If I was a pld what do I have to look forward to in SoA. Brd, same.

SO for those 90 shield and brd owners, the new gear is 30 lvls over what most of you have, as most are not 99. Of course it should be better.

[Calatilla]

I was happy to be whatever the party wanted on VW, playing on the back-line didn't mean I got any less rewards, I'd much rather "back-line Blu" than "not-invited Blu".

I remember back when Blu first came out, many, many times I'd end up going Blu/Whm and curing/debuffing, because there weren't enough Whms and Rdms to go around and it may not have been optimal but I remember it being far better than I expected the first time I tried it.

My only gripe about proc-blu was having to change my spells mid-fight to cover them all if I was the only one. >.>

But yeah, at the end of the day, I think most people just want to be able to participate in these events, even if they might not get to do it the way they want. I mean Schs are invited to Delve for stuns and nothing else, but I think generally they're happy to get to go at all, rather than just having nothing to do now that embrava's nerfed. And I'm pretty sure Smns long for the day when they got to Perfect Defense endgame things cuz at least that meant they got to go Smn even if they might've secretly wished they were there just do damage primarily instead of support.

I agree with everything you said, I was just saying the reason it was and still is to a point, hard to find a blu for VW is because if you're on BLU you want to DD not be relegated to the backlines. If however you put in your shout that you already have 1 BLU, its much easier to find a 2nd blu. Spell swapping mid fight is a pain as you said, even more so when the DD`s just zerg everything then complain "y u no get white proc!" when u said 15 times, i need to set it.

[Olor]

Being asked to go BLU to VW wasn't playing BLU, you were just a BLM in a different outfit, the reason it was and still is difficult to find a BLU to do VW with is because nobody likes sitting in the back row on BLU. You're there for procs, nothing else.

Yeah, I am aware of what my job was. Again, at least I'm invited ON BLU. I played my role, I played it well - would still rather be a proc star on BLU than playing on WHM or some other job I don't really like.

I was happy to be whatever the party wanted on VW, playing on the back-line didn't mean I got any less rewards, I'd much rather "back-line Blu" than "not-invited Blu".

I remember back when Blu first came out, many, many times I'd end up going Blu/Whm and curing/debuffing, because there weren't enough Whms and Rdms to go around and it may not have been optimal but I remember it being far better than I expected the first time I tried it.

My only gripe about proc-blu was having to change my spells mid-fight to cover them all if I was the only one. >.>

But yeah, at the end of the day, I think most people just want to be able to participate in these events, even if they might not get to do it the way they want. I mean Schs are invited to Delve for stuns and nothing else, but I think generally they're happy to get to go at all, rather than just having nothing to do now that embrava's nerfed. And I'm pretty sure Smns long for the day when they got to Perfect Defense endgame things cuz at least that meant they got to go Smn even if they might've secretly wished they were there just do damage primarily instead of support.

This. All of this. Would rather be invited on BLU to proc than not invited on BLU at all. It meant I could actually do the current endgame, on one of my favourite jobs. Versus now, when I don't get invited at all because I only have 2 songs on BRD and a BLU (without Tojil sword) and a BST

[Calatilla]

I totally get what you're saying and I agree as I said, I didn't mind being a proc-blu to VW, sometimes I prefer it because I can just idle away in the background. But the point I`m trying to make is that a lot of BLU's will not reply to a shout asking for BLU because they don't want to be proc-blu they want to be DD BLU,which is why its difficult to find one.

If VW Procs were more like Abyssea procs, where it's just one spell per element it would be much easier to cover all procs with 1 BLU and still have potential to DD.

It would be nice to have more BLU's like you Olor, who are just happy to come BLU, but that isn't usually the case.

[Olor]

yeah I honestly found it to be one of the most relaxing endgame activities because with spells set I was so gimp (especially /pld) that no one could possibly expect me to do anything but cycle procs and maybe use a AOE temp here or there

[VoiceMemo]

So as a pro bard, you have nothing to fear then.

That is correct instrument wise I don't need to worry about replacing but my complaint is it's always nice to get something. When everyone else is getting something why not something, ANY upgrade, no matter how small for the rest. To be left out just because of SE's lack of forsight is unfair for those of us who did achieve such goals in game.

By your reasoning every DD with an RME was slapped in the face when Adoulin came out. You had a much longer wait before your dominance was challenged, so you really have nothing to complain about.

Yes I agree, EVERY DD that had RME was slapped in the face when Delve weapons were released. Again the players paid the price for SE's lack of forsight and understanding about how we the players viewed weapons and the reasons why we made RME's.

I think you're mistaking the word career for princess. No worries. It's a common mistake.

I Think I've worked very hard for the gear I have considering my IRL work schedule. Unless you know someone's IRL situation, in my opinion you have no right to criticize someone's gear choices.

I'm not saying everyone should be a RME brd. I'm not saying that everyone must do it. This is my opinion and I think I'm entitled to it. The forums are a way for me to post them and for SE to read them.

I will get to 99 Daurdabla, it's just a matter of time. The journey is what counts. The result is nice too, but I've known many relic holders that got their relic at 75(back in 75 cap days) then quit a few months after because they had nothing to do, nothing to strive for. I'm pretty sure this won't happen to me but the thought that I would have nothing to strive for for brd has crossed my mind.

If skill is more important than gear then what the heck is your problem? It sounds like you just want to shut people out of your exclusive club or something.

My point is again we shouldn't be left out on upgrades both Shield, Horn and Harp didn't get any upgrade when RME upgrades came out from SE's lack of forsight. Look at BRD Job points. SE clearly doesn't know what to do with brd because they didn't forsee adoulin coming out. Decreased casting time for songs sung under Soul Voice does not help. Most brds have 5/5 Nightingale which they already use under Soul Voice which is instant casting of songs.

[VoiceMemo]

Greetings,
[*]Instruments
In the April version update we will be introducing a new instrument that grants an additional song. As this effect is extremely powerful, it won't be so easy to obtain; however, we'd like this to be another option in addition to Daurdabla.

It won't be easy to obtain huh. I don't think SE understand the meaning of "It won't be so easy to obtain"

All you need to get it is 1 delve win from original 3, 1 win from the new 3, a win from difficult or very difficult SCKNM, Cehuetzi Pelt, Ebony Harp, Shofar, and 150 of Beititsu, Pluton, or Riftborn Boulder.

Some have already gotten the new harp in hours of update completion. How is this hard to get?

Yes it is limited to 3 songs but until SE fixes VW to make it more lowman friendly the ability to get HMP and Cinders, Daurdabla is hampered by the limited amount of people that actually still do voidwatch.