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  1. #381
    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    [QUOTE=Ziyyigo-Tipyigo;496710]And sky ended up having terrible participation rates compared to other content because of it. There are reasons why they put the Limbus entrances at the crags and the Dynamis entrances right inside towns. And even then it took forever to get all the participants to show up in a reasonable amount of time.



    I invite you to go browse some of the old Vana'diel Censuses and observe what the progress/completion rates for CoP were like before the level caps were removed. Other content, for which sneak and invisible were viable, ended up in a situation where participants expected and required the other participants to bring their own sneak and invisible, just to cut down on the hassles (i.e. time duration) of travel.


    't matter how fast one can get some where there will always be people that are lat. Even now with fast travel the same people I used to see show up late all the time still show up late. The real kicker is they also had the sky warp back in the day as well.
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  2. #382
    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    The real kicker is they also had the sky warp back in the day as well.
    Nope. Aside from needing near completion of Chains of Promathia to accomplish, it wasn't added until the same update that introduced Salvage.
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  3. #383
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    This isn't WoW, but SE has turned it into a bad copy of it.

    For me, this game is dead, It isn't the game that I fell in love with a decade ago, it's a complete mess of unbalanced content and broken systems and what's more, the game feels smaller and more restrictive for each new one that SE has tacked on.

    If I could go back and play 75 cap XI again, I would in a heartbeat, Vana'diel still feels like home to me and every so often I'll hear a song from the OST, or remember epic adventures with friends or tough battles that took us all night to beat... and I'll get the craving to resub, but every time I have I'm cruelly reminded that the game I loved, one of the best I've played no longer really exists.

    So, I can relate to the OP despite his newness, I wish he'd have been able to enjoy XI in its prime, not the dead rotting chocobo that remains, the only movement being the result of SE continually kicking the corpse in hopes of tricking us into believing it's signs of life.
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  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonviper View Post
    This isn't WoW, but SE has turned it into a bad copy of it.

    For me, this game is dead, It isn't the game that I fell in love with a decade ago, it's a complete mess of unbalanced content and broken systems and what's more, the game feels smaller and more restrictive for each new one that SE has tacked on.

    If I could go back and play 75 cap XI again, I would in a heartbeat, Vana'diel still feels like home to me and every so often I'll hear a song from the OST, or remember epic adventures with friends or tough battles that took us all night to beat... and I'll get the craving to resub, but every time I have I'm cruelly reminded that the game I loved, one of the best I've played no longer really exists.

    So, I can relate to the OP despite his newness, I wish he'd have been able to enjoy XI in its prime, not the dead rotting chocobo that remains, the only movement being the result of SE continually kicking the corpse in hopes of tricking us into believing it's signs of life.
    God I hate players like you with the nostalgia goggles bolted on tight. The game would have died if it stayed at 75 cap. You people have no idea what the hell you want. Go on a private server and play there, they have a few of them now.
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  5. #385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Nope. Aside from needing near completion of Chains of Promathia to accomplish, it wasn't added until the same update that introduced Salvage.
    LOL so you don't consider that back in the day being over 5 years ago, half the life of the game(considering there are many MMOs that never see the 5 year mark that is pretty long time). Still doesn't change the fact if you were in a real endgame LS and not just the entry level sky LSes you had that and people still putzed around till the last min even when they did have warps and were still late.
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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    LOL so you don't consider that back in the day being over 5 years ago
    When you're talking about a gap of over three years between the introduction of Tu'Lia and the introduction of the "Warrior of the Crystal" teleports, no.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    God I hate players like you with the nostalgia goggles bolted on tight. The game would have died if it stayed at 75 cap. You people have no idea what the hell you want. Go on a private server and play there, they have a few of them now.
    It's fine, I'm not exactly keen on players like you who'll happily gobble up whatever gets put on your plate without complaint regardless of how god awful it is.

    So I guess I'm saying; I don't see us becoming friends.
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  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonviper View Post
    It's fine, I'm not exactly keen on players like you who'll happily gobble up whatever gets put on your plate without complaint regardless of how god awful it is.

    So I guess I'm saying; I don't see us becoming friends.
    not to nitpick, but Draylo is right, put your nostalgia glasses down and move on... the game is in a very good spot compared to where it was pre lvl cap raise (pre-abyssea) and after abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonviper View Post
    This isn't WoW, but SE has turned it into a bad copy of it.

    For me, this game is dead, It isn't the game that I fell in love with a decade ago, it's a complete mess of unbalanced content and broken systems and what's more, the game feels smaller and more restrictive for each new one that SE has tacked on.

    If I could go back and play 75 cap XI again, I would in a heartbeat, Vana'diel still feels like home to me and every so often I'll hear a song from the OST, or remember epic adventures with friends or tough battles that took us all night to beat... and I'll get the craving to resub, but every time I have I'm cruelly reminded that the game I loved, one of the best I've played no longer really exists.

    So, I can relate to the OP despite his newness, I wish he'd have been able to enjoy XI in its prime, not the dead rotting chocobo that remains, the only movement being the result of SE continually kicking the corpse in hopes of tricking us into believing it's signs of life.
    Those days are gone forever. You should just let 'em go.
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    What makes me laugh is we already farmed our af,dynamis gear se then release a new expansion and the playerbase laps it up that they have to go back to sky and old bcnms to to ilevel gear we already had, im sorry but se should be keeping us in the new zones not going back to do old fights we've already done.
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