Please remove COP requirements on reforged relic and AF

[Mirage]

hey that's unfair

i play tekken for the story

[Lithera]

Wait wait wait wait...

Content that's been out since 2004..2005 at the most for progression, and you've been around for at least 3 years.....you never attempted to progress CoP? You do realize there's a pretty nice ring at the end of CoP...right? Though I figure the OP was being sarcastic because you can clear CoP, especially as a BSt, pretty damn quickly these days, with no level cap at that.

Main reason I feel the OP was being sarcastic because she stated she dislikes playing an RPG...yet wants to play Final Fantasy XI, an MMO and RPG.

Sadly they are not being sarcastic. They made similar posts in other threads saying the same thing. They only want to do current stuff or any thing strictly tied to the battle content in the game that doesn't involve "huge" restrictions/requirements while looking like the job they are playing as.

[Karbuncle]

Everyone plays for different reasons. I enjoy doing difficult battles with friends, and mindlessly grinding fodder. I don't enjoy spending hours running between inconsequential cut scenes. I've worked on COP but crap like getting stuck on the two key thing for 6 months really slowed me down. It's good they removed that block, but even still its really tedious to spend my time reading the wiki trying to figure out what to do next (it is really frustrating actually) and then just running between battles that are inconsequential and cut scenes.

Maybe if the game actually told me what to do next step by step but spending the evening tediously reading FFXIcyclopedia to figure out what CS I missed and why can't I progress is a nightmare.

Honestly I don't get the judgy-ness this is a video game, I play to enjoy myself. When I stop enjoying myself the game will not be getting any more of my money. Getting dangerously close with content that is gated by unrelated mission progress.

Man, I sometimes think I've grown jaded in the years of gaming and crappy MMOs, thanks for the perspective.

completing Chains of Promathia was probably the best time I ever had in this game, and the story was fantastic, and the character likable and even lovable. Its truly one of the best experiences in any MMOs I've played. You really should burn through those "Tedious inconsequential cutscenes", because they're not really tedious or inconsequential. I mean, loads of content is locked out due to CoP, you can't do Dynamis Tavnazia, you can't get Rajas ring which is still a reasonable staple for many a job... No Diabolos for SMN, theres a lot to consider when it comes to CoP, not the least of which is relic/AF reforging.

You really should just finish it, I like the accessibility this game is bringing on but I don't think SE just needs to adjust every single detail simply for people who don't want to take an hour out of their AFK-in-Adoulin schedules to finish some cutscenes. Its less annoying than most of the crap i have to grit my teeth and grind through these days.

I get the fights aren't as fun and enjoyable as they once were due to everything being uncapped now, not having anyone to do it with, not being able to experience the payoff of winning a battlefield after hours of trying to win, sometimes days, all for the joy of success...

but the story itself is still reasonably enjoyable and the rewards are worth the effort, even to this day. I know it won't always be enjoyable for everyone, and mileage may vary, but In the end I don't dislike your idea, but I don't believe it necessary, it really can be blown through in like a days work.

[Olor]

it really can be blown through in like a days work.

No, it can't. I've spent multiple days of playtime working on it. Look, I get that other people like doing missions. That's fine. I don't. I accept having to miss out on the specific rewards from completing those missions. I am not expecting to be given Alexander if I don't do ToAU. I'm not asking for a Raja's ring if I don't do COP. I am asking to be allow to have THE CHOICE to do CURRENT CONTENT that is COMPLETELY UNRELATED.

Honestly whether or not you personally enjoyed the missions is of no interest to me - it's my playtime.

I'm even willing to accept the restriction on AF since it was only upgradeable using Limbus before - but WHY would I be allowed to upgrade my relic to +2 without COP and then mysteriously be locked out of the final step. Look, upgrading my relic (which I got myself and enjoyed getting and had fun unlocking dynamis zones with my friends to get) was what got me to log in and renew my sub.

All you folks making fun of the fact that I'd like to do some relevant content rather being asked to go solo cut scenes (and I have worked on it, and I HATE HATE HATE IT - currently on 3 paths and it is agonizingly boring and confusing because the mission log is USELESS) - do you want me to quit? Cause that's what's going to happen. Maybe you personally don't care, but if the devs keep this up, no one will be left playing except people who did all of this stuff 8 years ago when it was CURRENT - WITH THEIR FRIENDS - HAVING FUN. And now you make fun of people like me that just want to ENJOY the game and play current stuff.

I don't understand why people would be against something that doesn't affect them. If you like doing missions, BRAVO - go do the missions.

[Zarchery]

Well I think the big reason you are catching so much flak is because the obstruction you want removed is not a significant one at all. It's not like the Delve win or SKCNM Hard win requirement to reforge relic weapons, or the Voidwatch cities clear requirement to unlock Empyrean weapon skills. It's a set of easily soloable missions that any level 99 player could blast through solo. It's about as legit as asking to remove the requirement that you do the original Ark Angels fights before you can do the new ones.

You try to legitimize it by saying you have limited play time, but this is a silly excuse because you can take as long as you want. It'd probably take 25 hours tops to do the whole thing from start to finish. Do an hour a day and you're done in a month. Do more than an hour a day and you get done faster.

[Teraniku]

completing Chains of Promathia was probably the best time I ever had in this game,

Was the same for me and the group I completed it with, was the best time I've ever had in this game.

[Dragoy]

If it is indeed possible to upgrade the relic armour to +1 and +2 without Chains of Promathia progress (I can't remember/verify), I don't see why it should be required for the level 99 stages.

For the artifact armour it makes sense, but I probably wouldn't be against a change on that, too. It might be that this is the reason the relic armour is restricted as well, since they're using the same system (I guess).

I personally completed the story some years ago, but still after the level restrictions were lifted. It was, and remains to this day as one of the best times I've ever had. I did do it with a friend or few, and afterwards helped more people through it.

That said, I can imagine it is not fun for someone doing it alone, with no interest to the story whatsoever, and therefore would certainly not object removing any ties to content not directly connected to it.


But hey, it could be worse. ^^;

[Lithera]

Relic upgrade to +1 used dynamis money and was done at the same npc as AF+1ing. So yes the same npc is now cockblocking.

[Dragoy]

Lithera,

Yer, I'm aware of the same NPC doing it (not was doing it, by the by... ^^;), but I can't remember if I was ever able to see for myself if Sagheera will actually offer to restore the relic armour even if a character has no Chains of Promathia progress.

It would seem to be so, though, and if I really dig my memory holes, I think I seem to remember having a separate dialogue for artifacts, but the 2 times I have done that, I bet I always did get to Limbus before Dynamis... or did I.

Now I'm even more confuddled about my past...


What does it all mean!¿

[fjamesfernandez]

LOL What kind of request is that? And I do agree that you've been playing how long? And obviously have a few mules that you are paying $16 in change and never completed? You have it easy with the HP warps now... Do you know the shit we had to do back then without the amount of warps we have now? Suck it up and play through the story line if you or anyone has issue with "time" and don't want to check wiki for the next thing to do, then either go play WOW or FFXIV(WOW). They will gladly hold your hand through everything and guess what you can do? SKIP SCENES for those who don't want to read or can't read.

Or just play normal RPGs on your normal hand held (DS) and home consoles (PS3/4/360/1). They already took off the level cap on CoP next you are going to complain about the Coffers and how time consuming it is to farm for relic armor.

SE ignore this crap and go fix Gulool jaja please thank you.