Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Sprieth]

In pretty much every FF there's a small area/island that has high level mobs where you can level faster if you go and grind in that area. Isn't that what Abyssea is in a way? I mean I take 2 or 3 of my characters with 1 or 2 of my lower level guys and head to the island. The max level guys kill the mobs fast so the lower level chars can catch up, then go to a town, gear them up and get to the last boss. Would you rather sit around Coneria to level all your characters to the max?

[Nacht]

Sure we enter Abyssea, but for gears, not to leech, and noone should be able to enter abyssea for leeching. Becouse you got nothing from that, just bad habits.

Anyways sleeptime for me, GN.

Saves time for leveling SJs. Who cares if someone knows how to play a job, if all they're going to use it for is as a SJ.

[Zagen]

Have the people who support raising the cap so that people are forced to exp the "old way" ever questioned why there is no one to exp with when trying to make an exp party for the "old way" style of exping?

Just a thought but maybe its cuz they like the new way

[Zeitzone]

There will always be someone to take up the Krystal mantle. If there wasn't, this thread would be 150 pages shorter.

Yeah you really wear that mantle perfectly, its suits you. For keeping the wrong idea that leeching is okey.

[Nacht]

In pretty much every FF there's a small area/island that has high level mobs where you can level faster if you go and grind in that area. Isn't that what Abyssea is in a way? I mean I take 2 or 3 of my characters with 1 or 2 of my lower level guys and head to the island. The max level guys kill the mobs fast so the lower level chars can catch up, then go to a town, gear them up and get to the last boss. Would you rather sit around Coneria to level all your characters to the max?

Or... there's some gimpass character that can't do shit (Rydia when you first get her) who leeches along side other characters that do all the work.

[Gunit]

The old leeching was strongly limited, PL still keept the Pl outside pt and the Leecher needed to kill mobs by himself. Eighter no EXP. And the exp reward was low becouse you couldnt kill stronger mobs. Whould take too long.

Sure we enter Abyssea, but for gears, not to leech, and noone should be able to enter abyssea for leeching. Becouse you got nothing from that, just bad habits.

Anyways sleeptime for me, GN.

So you just enter abyssea to leech gear off other people? Its still leeching lol.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Or... there's some gimpass character that can't do shit (Rydia when you first get her) who leeches along side other characters that do all the work.

Don't worry though, she gets better. Unlike some idiots in Vana'diel.

[Zeitzone]

In pretty much every FF there's a small area/island that has high level mobs where you can level faster if you go and grind in that area. Isn't that what Abyssea is in a way? I mean I take 2 or 3 of my characters with 1 or 2 of my lower level guys and head to the island. The max level guys kill the mobs fast so the lower level chars can catch up, then go to a town, gear them up and get to the last boss. Would you rather sit around Coneria to level all your characters to the max?

Well you low level chars could get killed by 1 strike in that FF part of the area.
And its grinding.
Abyssea is no grinding, its pure leeching with overstated exp reward for level 30.
Huge difference.
And now really GN.

[Sprieth]

Well you low level chars could get killed by 1 strike in that FF part of the area.
And its grinding.
Abyssea is no grinding, its pure leeching with overstated exp reward for level 30.
Huge difference.
And now really GN.

wait so pretty much even if a party of 90 go there to merit it's still pure leeching?

[Zeitzone]

So you just enter abyssea to leech gear off other people? Its still leeching lol.

Doing something togehter on your true level to get a reward is teamwork and is no leeching.
Beeing a level 30 openeing chest, or getting synched up to 90 while orginaly beeing 30 is cheating.

Final goodnight, GF is waiting.