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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    dear lord the recent update was awesome, why are people so bananas about when it comes to makeing a game more enjoyable and more fun oO
    "Bananas" because my idea of fun isn't having major rewards thrown at my face just for spamming EP mobs. "Bananas" because people who think like me are hard-pressed to even find a game which doesn't have this developmental approach these days.

    I'm 34 years old, been playing games since Atari almost religiously and early on I knew that they were going to be a major part of my life. I enjoyed the challenges and the gameplay, the worlds, the characters and the stories behind them. The type of players that sustain these games for long periods of time are the players who are serious about the games they play. They want and need the immersion that games today are severely lacking.

    It's all about an industry that has become big business, interested only in that bottom dollar, marketing short-term interest for the sake of a single sale whilst leaving the forgotten majesty of video games in the dust.
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    The game is starting to show it age and at times they were not seeming to care about this great game. The rest of the world went a million miles a hour past this game. Yet we as gamers owe a lot for what FFXI did for the mmo games in last 11 years, FFXI and EQ grinds created the WOW phenom love it or hate it got main stream people to play mmos. FFXIV is trying to catch up and it working pretty good and a good game. With a lot hiccups on stuff that the mmo and gaming community has seen for the last 4 years.

    One other thing is square so strict on fan videos it hard for fans to make good videos to show friends how awesome FFXI can be and there not enough money they put in to ads for the game so people do not even no this game is still running.
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    No its RPG your paying to play every month. You can think all the retards who wanted fields of valor 18 man partys to burn through there jobs
    for that. Now the games stupid easy and boring. They got what they wanted now the games dead. Wasn't really hard to make a party back then, i did pretty fast all you had to do was /sea all and ask anyone with there party flag up if they wanted to party around your level most where just to lazy and just wanted the LFP for 3 days then cry saying you couldn't find one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    "Bananas" because my idea of fun isn't having major rewards thrown at my face just for spamming EP mobs. "Bananas" because people who think like me are hard-pressed to even find a game which doesn't have this developmental approach these days.

    I'm 34 years old, been playing games since Atari almost religiously and early on I knew that they were going to be a major part of my life. I enjoyed the challenges and the gameplay, the worlds, the characters and the stories behind them. The type of players that sustain these games for long periods of time are the players who are serious about the games they play. They want and need the immersion that games today are severely lacking.

    It's all about an industry that has become big business, interested only in that bottom dollar, marketing short-term interest for the sake of a single sale whilst leaving the forgotten majesty of video games in the dust.
    I am 32 and am playing 11 since over 10 years with like 3 little breaks (only 2-3 months). We are FAR away from getting everything thrown at our face, there is still things left that need alot of dedication. Mythics need alot of dedication, empys too with the dried out plate and rift market. Try getting a D.ring for another challenge. Besides I dont have the time anymore to play FFXI in the olde way, i have other obligations in RL and I think the current mix of grind and casual play that rewards you too is just perfectly balanced. You get rewarded for stuff you do, yet its not too grindy to be a total pain in the ass. Just the implementation of the homepoint system saves a ton of time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    I am 32 and am playing 11 since over 10 years with like 3 little breaks (only 2-3 months). We are FAR away from getting everything thrown at our face, there is still things left that need alot of dedication. Mythics need alot of dedication, empys too with the dried out plate and rift market. Try getting a D.ring for another challenge. Besides I dont have the time anymore to play FFXI in the olde way, i have other obligations in RL and I think the current mix of grind and casual play that rewards you too is just perfectly balanced. You get rewarded for stuff you do, yet its not too grindy to be a total pain in the ass. Just the implementation of the homepoint system saves a ton of time!
    To be fair, I didn't say everything because I didn't mean everything. I was talking of course about the RoE gear from 1-99. Now surely nobody regards a Lv1 katana as a "major reward", but when you have a piece of gear that has +839483943 EVA that can be bought with sparks (sparks just for spamming easy prey), well, that is what I'm talking about.

    And by the way, I'm not far off being able to buy a defending ring
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    Is this a MMO?
    Yes.

    Next question, please.
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    I see that this game has creates a large divide between the casual player and the full time players. Its getting kinda sad where they demand you have an item to join an event where you get the item itself.....

    Its the whole chicken and the egg thing, you need the weapon to get the weapon.
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    People complaining things were added to the game to make it easier for people, why am I surprised to find this?

    You want to know why they make the game easier? I cant answer, no one knows besides them, it may even be unintentional and they just don't realize how easy things are, but heres my thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    I see that this game has creates a large divide between the casual player and the full time players. Its getting kinda sad where they demand you have an item to join an event where you get the item itself.....
    This right here, great reason and cause to do it. Over the last few months what have Delve shouts wanted? SE asked us to include people in the content, help others, not be douchebags about it, but did we? No. They now added fairly easy level 117 to get, we can look at this one of two ways, either SE made this stupidly and threw very powerful gear in our face at the cost of little to no work, or, they saw that we ignored them for the most part and instead thought something along the lines of...

    Quote Originally Posted by SE_Dev
    Ya know what, you guys keep asking people to have Senbaak, Razorfury, Oats, or some other expensive and difficult weapon to get, just so they can join content. We tried to prevent this by making RMEs comparable to other gear, and by asking you to let others come with you for wins. Since you thought it was a good idea to ignore that, we are just going to add 117 gear you can get easily so that people are 'worthy' to join you.
    In all honesty, this is how I would address this community.



    Past that. Trust, thats a response to Dualboxing Im sure, since we all know not everyone can do it and yet at the same time it causes massive issues for people who don't because people who do just do everything alone on their own.



    These are enhancements for the game and its players, not just you, everyone, how about everyone who wants to complain about these issues look past themselves for a minute and understand this is actually a good thing rather than complaining about it constantly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    Past that. Trust, thats a response to Dualboxing Im sure, since we all know not everyone can do it and yet at the same time it causes massive issues for people who don't because people who do just do everything alone on their own.

    These are enhancements for the game and its players, not just you, everyone, how about everyone who wants to complain about these issues look past themselves for a minute and understand this is actually a good thing rather than complaining about it constantly!
    Wish I could give you more than one like. I missed the initial rush into SoA, so up until recently, I felt like buying that expansion was a complete waste of money. Since I wasn't in on the ground level, I couldn't seem to get into it now (partially due to my stubborness in the way ilvl stuff was added). However with the newest update, it seems that SE decided to once again level the playing field, but this time mostly to help out those who play the game solo.

    Trust gives people their own cure-bots. It is letting me level geo on my own terms, pick a zone and just go to town without it taking my 5 minutes to melee down an easy prey mob, or doing the pet nuke method I've done with two other jobs. RoE gear has let me start doing some exploring in Aldouin and I finally went and got my blu spells from there (minus the UL ones). With RoE goals, it has opened places for me to level, where I'm not relying on FoV/GoV but instead doing something different. Ran around Castle Zvahl Keep fighting demons, and the 750 xp bonus for every 10 kills made it worthwhile, where as a week ago that zone to me was strictly NM farming.

    Back to the OP, yes this MMO seems to have become a whole group of people playing solo. But right now it seems like there is more life in the world as I'm seeing people active in zones that have long been ignored.
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    While the recent updates have allowed for better gear, they still haven't offered anything that will allow me to take my BRD and PLD off the shelf.

    They still have not changed the fact that 18 people are required to do delve, all the instadeath makes dynamis wins unsoloable, and there are multi parson switches all over vanadiel that can't be triggered alone. Finding people has actually become more difficult because everyone is off soloing.

    You can buy skill up stuff with sparks but I've still used over 400 astrial homelands and still not capped on my SMN. I still have many other skills like enhancing, handbell and guarding that I still need to work with.

    LS Community site is back but they haven't even added all the gear yet.

    The more they add without any wiki support makes correct/updated information on everything in the game harder to find.

    No progress has been made in cracking down on the use of 3rd party tools.

    While I know they're doing some things that are nifty, it's not doing anything to address core problems with the game.
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