servers way more empty now? Still doing the linear gear climb?

[Mostfowl]

played it, dont wanna play another WoW clone. If they had kept the core of what 1.23 ended on the old 14, it would have been amazing and i would have never looked back, but instead they threw it all out to "meet the standard" which they even said they got by talking to blizz devs, so its no surprise its like EVERYTHING else out there.

pssst ffxi is a eq clone, se flat out admits that
and ffxiv is not a wow clone, its just not ffxi/eq based

[Anjou]

All MMO is about your accomplishment, you've done this, I've done that. Ebody or legendary weapons are the same as achievement system, it's 1 important aspect of the game, don't need to look at it in such negative way.

I wish I could agree with you on that, but when you're rubbing it in someone's face (I'm looking at a certain someone I bet is lurking this forum) to the point I rejected the notion of ever going DRK, yeah there's a reason to be negative due to past experiences....

[Demon6324236]

Skirmish +1 weps with +1 stone augments basically match starting Delve weapons most often, so they should be good enough.

[casual]

Linear gear climb is honestly the worst thing SE could have added, due to the simple fact that they cannot keep up with the demands of new content to keep people interested. We're probably the closest to the game outright dying than we ever have been before.

[Afania]

pssst ffxi is a eq clone, se flat out admits that
and ffxiv is not a wow clone, its just not ffxi/eq based

FFXIV is a wow clone period, it's just a clone that doesn't have every good aspect from wow, still a clone.

There are more wow clone on the market than EQ clone, we don't need anymore, don't need FFXI to become one.

[leorez]

FFXIV is a wow clone period, it's just a clone that doesn't have every good aspect from wow, still a clone.

There are more wow clone on the market than EQ clone, we don't need anymore, don't need FFXI to become one.

and i have played EQ before, though there are some parts that are very much the same, there is a good chunk that is different (and i know they said they used it as their base) but 14 is a flat out copy in almost every way, not just WoW but of all the WoW like games and their slight changes from that (like fates basically being rifts/gw2 events but crappier)

And like the person i quoted said, there are TONS of WoW clones and most have failed or barely hang on over all these years, FFXI was one of a few EQ clones and they did it when the game was still early in its life (and early in the genre in general).

Dont be shocked when in 6months to a year tons of the 14 servers are merged or they bite the bullet and go F2P (they are copying all the other "standards" so im sure they would be up for one more?

[predatory]

The biggest problem with the vertical slice as it is with a game this old is how few people will be doing the lower stuff. If a newer player wants to jump into SoA endgame now...well for the most part they are screwed. Its not a giant spread out community anymore, almost everyone left is at the newest endgame so if you get left behind, you might as well stop playing, next to no one does the lower end stuff because there is no need.

That in general is what i hate about the gear climb, it makes content worthless after a short time and since no one needs it, no one is gonna come help you catch up (unless you have a bunch of friends to help, but not everyone does).

2 of my friends that cam back, they are nowhere near that stuff, ones starting fresh because he hasnt played for ages, the other stopped at ToAU...i have no idea how me and a couple LS mates are gonna handle bringing them up to speed.

you must be a new player, or you would never have made this statement

[predatory]

it was top tier for 7 years or more... really shit like that should never be the case with ANY item. (not to mention thats why kings also remained a shit fest for 7 years). hence why I side this horizontal gear scaling isnt good either.

So what is wrong with gear that stays good forever as long as the content is geared side progressive as well? Did the game ever have to leave the 75 cap in the dust? of course it didn't all they had to do was add more content and their player base would still be in the 4k range on multiple servers, they didn't start having to do server merges until after they announced the level cap to 80. Think about it, your gear was good for multiples of years, you had sweet shit, were building even nicer stuff, then all of a sudden boom level cap up 5, and bamb everything you worked so hard on was worthless. Now fast forward just a few very short years and you go from not just that level cap to 99 and even worse through 4 sets of gear progression in 8 months. population then 4k, population now 700, you do the math

[predatory]

know the difference between ffxi and wow these days? you can only do a raid in wow once a week, you can do skirmish and delve as much as you want provided you have the ki to do it

[leorez]

you must be a new player, or you would never have made this statement

Im not at all, besides the fact that there is next to no one on, people are doing shouts for mega bosses and skirmish 2...and thats about it. DO you think they would let in a guy who only has bayld gear at their best? (because its what you can get done on your own or with a small group) Unlikely, they will want people who have the weapons and gear from the plasm stuff or higher (which you can not do on your own...and no one does it anymore)