Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Kagato]

ITT: Please don't take away our easy mode!

I'm for a level requirement raise. Ever since EXP got doubled and FoV can be spammed, leveling my corsair from 1-50 only took 2 weeks of casual play, duoing with a friend for 3 hours every other day. It's not hard to speed-level without abyssea. People just want instant results I guess.

Raise the level requirement while improving ways to give purpose to the rest of the game zones for exp gain. The exp increase and FoV has done wonders.

And for those who are saying "People have a choice," understand that humans are greedy and lazy and will ALWAYS choose the path that gives the greatest reward for the least amount of work. The only way to keep temptation away is to place it out of reach, and I only chose not to because my friend is new and I wanted to level up with her outside of Abyssea. It was fast as well as fun.

[Cream_Soda]

understand that humans are greedy and lazy and will ALWAYS choose the path that gives the greatest reward for the least amount of work.

and I only chose not to because my friend is new and I wanted to level up with her outside of Abyssea.

A) If that were true, you wouldn't have people like the OP
B) Always is a pretty big word, especially when you capitalize it. I find it funny you find an exception only a few sentences later.

[Vinc]

And for those who are saying "People have a choice," understand that humans are greedy and lazy and will ALWAYS choose the path that gives the greatest reward for the least amount of work.

So this is being greedy and lazy, and not smart? People asking for archaic methods baffle me.

[Greatguardian]

ITT: People will "ALWAYS" do things one way unless they enjoy doing it another way.

[Naturebeckles]

"People are using Abyssea to level because the old way SUCKED. "

So... for those of you who love to level up quick, yeah... the old way sucked. But guess what? The "old way" produces BETTER PLAYERS. Yes, that's right. I said it. The old way produced better players. How can you learn a job by partying or soloing to 30 and then key whoring the rest of the way until you're finally able to hit something for skillups 70+? The new way may be awesome for leveling up fast, but that's all it's good for. For casual players or, for those of us who appreciate working hard to level so we can actually LEARN how to play our jobs along the way, the old way is still the best way to go. The old way is still available and still being used by people. So, at least SE left that option open for the smart people.

[rog]

will ALWAYS choose the path that gives the greatest reward for the least amount of work.

Duh? Why wouldn't we?

[Unaisis]

There were still Crap players back when exp was Crap. Even back when most an easy prey gave was 25 exp and most a decent gave was 50, there were crap players. Crap players are Crap players~ doesn't matter how fast he or she leveled their job.

whats this about the old exp was better for casual players? do you even know what Casual means? Grinding and working hard to gain a couple of levels a day was not casual at all. The old exp was for Hard core EXP grinding if you wanted to get somewhere in a decent amount of time.

[Vinc]

The "old way" produces BETTER PLAYERS. Yes, that's right. I said it. The old way produced better players. How can you learn a job by partying or soloing to 30 and then key whoring the rest of the way

Majority of the people using this argument are poor players, in current standing, either by gear or skill. The 6 man play style of old exp parties in no way reflects how to play a job in endgame. Stop confusing yourself.

[Aliekber]

How can you learn a job by partying or soloing to 30 and then key whoring the rest of the way until you're finally able to hit something for skillups 70+?

Step 1) Look up the job on FFXIclopedia. Read about the job, and ask questions on forums for any clarification you need.

Step 2) Use FFXIAH's gear set creator to put together what gear you want to use.

Step 3) Gather the gear.

Step 4) Spend an hour making macros.

Step 5) Cap your skills.

Step 6) Use the job, and be better than the sea of full Perle/Aurore/Teal players. Develop reflexes over a week or two of endgame play.

Step 7) The Old Way player who started the job at the same time as you is still in Wajaom Woodlands killing birds.

[Babygyrl]

I totally agree with this.. im sos sick of people constantly wanting to leech in pts.. and it killed low level partying.. Aby should have never allowed people so low to begin with.. and it made the costs of scrolls sky rocket cuz everyone leveled every job with ease..