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    I whole heartedly agree to this post. I was literally about to post the exact same topic until I saw this myself.
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    I just came back after ~3 years away and I arrived to a desolate Windurst Waters[S]. Those used to be so much fun and now nobody does them. I would love to see these get some love by the devs to make them more attractive.
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    Besides what the OP suggested (Skill ups) Campaign needs upgraded rewards as well. Lvl 90 ish armor and weapons as AN rewards. Offer relic pieces as Campaign rewards for Allied Notes etc. People would start doing it a lot more.
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    there really is no point in doing campaign anymore and I think that is the dev's intent. perhaps, years ago when campaign first came out, they might have some grand plan for it but it's deader then dead because having campaign specific armors/weapons are stupid because they just become inventory -x pieces so they can give you god mode for these armors/weapons and no one will do them unless they get rid of the campaign only flag on them.

    if you really enjoy campaign, have a look at the SoA video, the sample battle looks to be VERY campaign like. You talk to NPC, get tag and then teleport to the area. mobs there appear to also have tag on them too. So I think instead of going back and try to revive campaign, the dev is doing something similar to a new battleground in SoA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    there really is no point in doing campaign anymore and I think that is the dev's intent.
    So you're basically saying square enix said oh hey you know that expansion we made you purchase? yeah its obsolete and mostly worthless but you are still required to install it because a lot of the new content in the game borrows from the zones added by that expansion. Our mission here at square enix is to screw you out of your money and make people forget the parts of the game they find joy in.

    That would be a horribly tremendous under sight. And as far as inventory -x. Porter Moogle Storage slip anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureikun View Post
    So you're basically saying square enix said oh hey you know that expansion we made you purchase? yeah its obsolete and mostly worthless but you are still required to install it because a lot of the new content in the game borrows from the zones added by that expansion. Our mission here at square enix is to screw you out of your money and make people forget the parts of the game they find joy in.

    That would be a horribly tremendous under sight. And as far as inventory -x. Porter Moogle Storage slip anyone?
    Name something from the entire WoTG that was actually worth getting/using? The only single item that is remotely decent is probably the WoTG mission reward. Other than that, the old iron ram set used to be decent for tank back then. Is the mission story decent? Sure, but it sure as hell wasn't 3 years decent for me.

    As for inventory/storage, yeah, you can store it but then if you never take it out to use, you mind as well just toss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    Name something from the entire WoTG that was actually worth getting/using?
    NHelm, NMail, Moonshade, the ring from the end of the Sandy path, Rose Grip, probably a few other items I can not think of off the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    NHelm, NMail, Moonshade, the ring from the end of the Sandy path, Rose Grip, probably a few other items I can not think of off the top of my head.
    I'll give you Rose Grip, but that's only on certain job/build. But both Nocturnus has better alternatives. Moonshade is the WoTG reward that I've already mentioned. There used to be an MAB ammo too but that too has a better alternative now but I can even give you that one as well. My point here is that considerating how much time and how many zones made up WoTG, it's pretty sad how little are worth doing anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    But both Nocturnus has better alternatives.
    No it doesn't, they are the best absorbing damage for those spots, look up the optimum DT sets for the jobs on it, its in those sets because due to recent gear you can cap DT while putting in items like those with Absorption and others like the Shadow Mantle which straight up null the damage.

    As for there being little rewards, of course, its level 75 content, the only part meant for level 90 is the story which was stretched out way to long it ended up being there for the earring to be level 90. Its like saying there are few rewards from CoP or RotZ, the only worthwhile things are from the end of the missions or in the case of RotZ, Divine Might. Its content and rewards from 24 levels ago, things do not often last that long. I think they should add some new level 99 stuff to campaign and redo it like many other events, but to say its all worthless makes it sounds like other expansions are any different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    No it doesn't, they are the best absorbing damage for those spots, look up the optimum DT sets for the jobs on it, its in those sets because due to recent gear you can cap DT while putting in items like those with Absorption and others like the Shadow Mantle which straight up null the damage.

    As for there being little rewards, of course, its level 75 content, the only part meant for level 90 is the story which was stretched out way to long it ended up being there for the earring to be level 90. Its like saying there are few rewards from CoP or RotZ, the only worthwhile things are from the end of the missions or in the case of RotZ, Divine Might. Its content and rewards from 24 levels ago, things do not often last that long. I think they should add some new level 99 stuff to campaign and redo it like many other events, but to say its all worthless makes it sounds like other expansions are any different.

    Let's see, for battle system (not including any of the BCNM/KCNM/etc for now):

    ToAH has NI -> NNI, Salvage -> Neo Salvage, Einherjar -> Neo Einherjar. Assault produced some very good gears for back then but those are mostly all been replaced now. All the Neo version has current gears. Beseiged can still provide very quick low level exp and a few skillups opportunity. PW is in here too.

    CoP/ZM has Dynamis (Dreamlands), Sky, Sea/Limbus -> Neo Limbus. Augmentations keep sky still decently useful even to this day. Limbus has some mage gears that are still useful/important. Neo Limbus added some more side graded items. Both mission final rewards has something similar to Moonshade. AV here.

    WoTG - Campaign??? Most of the 'good gear' back in the 75 days were Campaign locked. Yes, there were a few exceptions but there really isn't any battle system at all. The Campaign Op/Mission/BC has provided some interesting battles/gears but no one do any of these any more because of the effort required to turn some of the zones.
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    Last edited by Dreamin; 03-19-2013 at 04:21 AM.

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