adieu FFXIV people

[SpankWustler]

My time came with X. It remains the only Final Fantasy game I didn't like and wish I never played.

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[Demon6324236]

That makes me sad, 10 is my favorite... ;;

[Areayea]

I <3 X, I can't wait for the HD remaster to come out :O I'ma buy it right away lol, like that my post got so much attention O.O but uh... hi pplz and stuffz :P otherwise uh... after reading everything, and seeing how the first couple of phases of XIV is running it seems like they are actually trying again, which since I'm prolly not gonna be too serious (I will play for you hide <3) about XIV, but... in actuality since this new directer seems like he cares and is enthusiastic I can't wait to see how SoA is gonna do, the music so far is kinda ok, but usually the preview music isn't the actual music that makes it in (I REALLY wish they brought in Ode to Heroes Fallen somewhere in WotG...) but otherwise ya this will be very interesting to see what is going to happen... but yes... I <3 X as well, X-2 sucked tho I'll agree with that, but X had some of the best quotes I've taken from a video game (in a sales job I use them >.>)

[wildsprite]

some of you are wondering about FFXIV:ARR at this point defending/hating it would be pointless as it isn't finished however if they dont fix one of the main issues that 1.0 had which was the system requirements too high for most of the players who initially tried it(it made most of the systems choke), it will fail just as 1.0 did

the comment about making most of the systems choke was the majority of the players who were excited about 1.0

[Demon6324236]

some of you are wondering about FFXIV:ARR at this point defending/hating it would be pointless as it isn't finished however if they dont fix one of the main issues that 1.0 had which was the system requirements too high for most of the players who initially tried it(it made most of the systems choke), it will fail just as 1.0 did

the comment about making most of the systems choke was the majority of the players who were excited about 1.0

Going by screenshots that flooded AH.com when the system check thing was released, it seems much better than it was.

[Arcon]

some of you are wondering about FFXIV:ARR at this point defending/hating it would be pointless as it isn't finished [..]

Hating it isn't pointless, because it does not depend on how good it is. I don't hate bad games, I just don't play them. FFXIV I hate, because of SE's attitude and its adverse effects on FFXI. It's entirely unrelated to the game itself. It could be the earthly manifestation of Christ, I still wouldn't be playing it and I'd hate it for what it did.

[Jaall]

Hating it isn't pointless, because it does not depend on how good it is. I don't hate bad games, I just don't play them. FFXIV I hate, because of SE's attitude and its adverse effects on FFXI. It's entirely unrelated to the game itself. It could be the earthly manifestation of Christ, I still wouldn't be playing it and I'd hate it for what it did.

There's no pleasing people like you. SE's attitude has been the same for FFXIV as it has been for every other game only difference is they've made it public because of FFXIV's first failure. The main gripe you have with FFXIV is that it has had a bad effect on FFXI but tbh it hasn't made a blind difference it's just how you perceive it. FFXI will always have gone the way it has, with the existence of FFXIV or not, either way it would have been replaced by another final fantasy because they have to move with the times to survive. Try running a business or making a game and you will understand.

[Arcon]

There's no pleasing people like you.

Very untrue, I'm quite easily pleased. Why else would I be playing XI in its current state?

The main gripe you have with FFXIV is that it has had a bad effect on FFXI but tbh it hasn't made a blind difference it's just how you perceive it. FFXI will always have gone the way it has, with the existence of FFXIV or not, either way it would have been replaced by another final fantasy because they have to move with the times to survive. Try running a business or making a game and you will understand.

So I assume you understand them better than me, because you have made a game and are running a business?

They admitted themselves FFXI is running on a low crew right now, they frequently use it as an excuse not to implement very simple features. Assuming they aren't lying to us, what kind of company lets its most profitable venture in their entire history run on a skeleton crew, while increasing the developers on a game that brought them nothing but disgrace in the eyes of the public and was a huge financial flop?

In case you can't guess, it's the kind of company who would sacrifice both their profits and their loyal customers to erase a black mark on their record. They're trying to save face. And it's not really helping their outside appearance either, because people will not forget that XIV existed because of this. It hurt their image, no matter what XIV will turn out to be now. Many people will not even try it because of their opinion of the original. In a market with such a growth and new MMORPGs popping up in every direction, some of them even free, others with massive fan bases (such as The Elder Scrolls Online, which will actually coincide with the XIV release), how many do you think will go with "the remake of a horribly screwed up game" compared to any of the alternatives?

Trying to rescue XIV was a bad move in almost every logical way, yet they went on with it. Don't give me that "they're a big company, they know better than you" bullshit. If they knew better they wouldn't have lost assloads of money on that game. Even big companies can go broke, that's no argument for anything. Either tell me why I'm wrong or stop defending them.

[Jaall]

You're wrong because very few people had even heard of FFXI and FFXIV in comparison to other MMO's and so the image is very easily rebuilt. Secondly they haven't cut any of the profits from FFXI, because guess what, you're still paying them. They realise that no matter how little they care for FFXI they can get away with it, so they have confidence in FFXI. I would bet that if everyone quit FFXI tomorrow they would go straight back to FFXI and put equal effort into both, but why should they if FFXI is stable? The best business plan would be to divert resources to the potential best product for as long as FFXI is making a steady income, which it is. You have just stated that no matter how FFXIV is, you will never leave FFXI, so you're playing into their hands. So in fact you are actually fuelling what you hate. Oh and by the way... I have run a company so I know exactly what it's like, and also done a master degree course in 3D animation which is very closely related to games design, in fact I actually worked along side game coders in a lot of my assignments.

[Elphy]

Don't forget SE one and ONLY game is ffxi, and they have absolutely no right to work on other games. They have no right to take the money they make from one game and put it into another.

They have NO right to work on repairing their image that ffxiv v1 soiled. They have NO right to do ANYTHING outside of ffxi EVER

ffxi money should go to NOTHING but ffxi, tomb raider money should go to NOTHING but tomb raider, etc etc. If they want to rebuild ffxiv they should find the money elsewhere and NEVER take a DIME from our precious ffxi. All other games and the reputation of the company be damned.

I will NEVER EVER look at ANY other ff title, esp FFXIV because it TOOK ALL OUR MONEY AND RESOURCES FOR A FAIL GAME.

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Like I said before, no need to defend any other game to these ppl, they cant see past ffxi and they will hate a game they have never played just because they are butt hurt that after 10 yrs ffxi isnt getting se's full attn