[Suggestion] PS4 version.

[Jaall]

Except the fact consoles are faster to load up, aren't as loud and have games that are only available for console. Also a lot smaller generally and much more living room friendly with less cables etc. Point is there are a lot of disadvantages to using a PC in a living room environment where you'd generally find a games console.

[Alhanelem]

Except the fact consoles are faster to load up, aren't as loud and have games that are only available for console. Also a lot smaller generally and much more living room friendly with less cables etc. Point is there are a lot of disadvantages to using a PC in a living room environment where you'd generally find a games console.

Actually, those things aren't all true all the time either.

Consoles are only faster to load up if you have crappy hardware. Get an SSD and Windows will boot up in a few seconds and games load even faster than the console versions They're more expensive than hard drives to be sure but they're getting cheaper every day. As for size, I've never met a living room you couldn't fit a PC somewhere. Many consoles are just as big as smaller form factor PCs- because they essentially ARE unupgradable PCs.

[Jaall]

Look at the figures. Consoles still sell enough to keep them producing more and more since the early 90's. Every few years they bring out another updated model from the profits they make. Fact is even though you're a PC fanboy, consoles have their advantages and are a lot more cost efficient. And tbh if you want a PC to boot up at the same speed as a PS3 you need to spend at least 2x as much on the PC and that's just for starters. Then you need graphics etc to match up and by the end of it you're gonna have a very loud, large PC sitting in your living room and I know for a fact that my fiancé won't appreciate that, nor any other families I know. Yes PC's are good for gaming but fact is there are downsides and benefits to both whether you like it or not.

[Jackstin]

Consoles have better games than PCs. There, I said it. Console gamers are also less weird than PC gamers.

[Alhanelem]

Consoles have better games than PCs. There, I said it. Console gamers are also less weird than PC gamers.

Yeah, except you're wrong. Especially within the last couple of years, consoles have been getting fewer and fewer exclusives as more and more developers move to the PC and Steam, due to Microsoft and Sony's shiatty business practices.

There isn't anything about a console that makes games on it better. It's simply cheaper so many people who can't own a PC can own a console.

Beyond that, whether or not one game is better than another is entirely your subjective opinion and if you made a list of games that you compared to games on the PC I'm sure I could personally dispute all or nearly all of them, because we may not even like the same kinds of games.

[Jaall]

Like I said, there's really no comparison due to the fact that the only difference in the 2 would be price and gaming opinion. It has to be fact by now that opinion doesn't count for anything worthwhile. For example, while Alhanalem, you're obviously a massive PC fanboy who would happily have a PC sitting in your living room, I and other casual gamers wouldn't want that and also wouldn't want the sheer hassle of starting up a pc, loading up via keyboard and mouse etc just to play the same game on a PC where it may be .2% better and only due to the graphics customisation. It is all opinion and even the price point being cheap or expensive is an opinion so there is no argument unless it goes back to the same old "he thinks this" and "he thinks that" endless war between people. I think we can all agree nobody is gonna win that.

[Sarick]

Yeah, except you're wrong.

You agree to disagree or are you contradicting yourself?

Consoles ae standardized hardware meaning that each unit is nearly identical hardware wise. There are no hardware incompatibilities and you don't need to upgrade hardware constantly.

Unless everyone is running on the same PC or nearly identical system PCs do have a limitation that consoles don't. Each system is totally unique. A PC can have mullions of hardware/software configurations. Consoles can have several setups but they are matched much better universally then the average PC.

I bet my PC and yours doesn't have a single matching part equipped to it! On the other hand I have 4 PS3's. The PS3's all run PS3 software flawlessly and there is no special drivers or hardware requirements aside from HDD space. It's simple to understand. Consoles are much more user friendly especially now that windows 8 is out. Also I haven't seen a low end PC run native PS3 software yet.

These things that make consoles static give make them have a longer user life then a high end PC that "NEEDS" updated every 1-3 years or new software starts becoming incompatible with them. Consoles remain compatible with new software most of the time until end of life.

If This was on the PS3 or PS4 it'd probably run just as good as the PCs run it today with the exceptions of those 3rd party tools people talk about.

[Jackstin]

Yeah, except you're wrong. Especially within the last couple of years, consoles have been getting fewer and fewer exclusives as more and more developers move to the PC and Steam, due to Microsoft and Sony's shiatty business practices.

There isn't anything about a console that makes games on it better. It's simply cheaper so many people who can't own a PC can own a console.

Beyond that, whether or not one game is better than another is entirely your subjective opinion and if you made a list of games that you compared to games on the PC I'm sure I could personally dispute all or nearly all of them, because we may not even like the same kinds of games.

Yeah but PC gamers only like PC games because they're basement dwelling oddities.

[Zhronne]

One thing that hasn't been noted yet is that PS4 gamepad has 2 buttons less than PS1-2-3 gamepad. Unless you can re-map them on the touchpad I wonder how it would do with a game like FFXI.
The missing keys are not vital luckily, but still it makes you wonder.

Gonna be fun for other games retrocompatibility (through Gaikai) as well

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

One thing that hasn't been noted yet is that PS4 gamepad has 2 buttons less than PS1-2-3 gamepad.

Unless you're referring to L3 and R3 (and how would you be able to tell?), Select and Start already each have dedicated areas of the touchpad along the bottom edge.