Free to play plans?

[Arcon]

You can honestly say that you have done everything there is to this game?

I have, and that's still a stupid argument. Even before I did Garrison for the first time I knew I wouldn't like it. Do I have to try everything out before I get to complain about a lack of content? Does me not having every relic or mythic mean I can't ask for content I actually like?

And yes, you are cheap for complaining about 12.95 a month. I pay that for one dinner meal and all i get is a full stomach for a few hours. Value for your money is hell of well spent.

That's also completely misleading, like I said in previous post. These things have to be looked at in a competitive way. Food doesn't compete with FFXI. Food competes with other food, which is similarly priced. FFXI competes with other MMOGs, which are similarly priced, and among those it has one of the worst value/cost ratios.

[Arcon]

Dude it's still your personal opinion, how can you say that's a fact? I can say ffxi is worth more then what they charge, it doesnt make it a fact. It's just my opinion and what you're saying sir is still your opinion. I'll ask again, if you don't feel like it's worth that much, then why are you paying?

Because, like I said, it's not my opinion. To me, it's worth the money, that's why I pay. But it's certainly not because the game is objectively good. The entire structure is falling apart at every end, the game is buggy as hell and has been for over a decade, customer interaction is non-existent, content is repetitive and the release schedule is slow. That is not an opinion, that is fact. I enjoy what little there is atm, and I enjoy playing with my linkshell and helping newbies figure out how to play this wreck of a game and I enjoy doing certain related stuff outside of the game.

And right!!, you know more about business then a multi million dollar business. Come on man!!! Do you think they're too dumb to have not analyzed every single option to make more money? They're not a multi billion dollar company for nothing yo. Like you told the other guy "I'm reasonably certain you can't run a bath with your backseat CEO self

Multimillion dollar businesses go broke too. Do you think that's part of their ingenious plan that my unrich mind cannot comprehend?

SE got rich because they made games that were popular, not because they were great at business plans. If a game company stops making great games, they go broke. And FFXI is losing players. So yes, multimillion dollar companies do not always know what's best for them. They did not get rich because they have a clue. They got rich because they had fanboys. Right now they're losing fanboys. What does your genius mind say will happen next? Or will you leave the thinking to them, because they're obviously so good at it?

[Rezeak]

Complaining about paying 12.95 for a month of entertain is stupid.

Missed the point, all i said is for me 2/3 of the time my 12.95 is better spent. Like i said before when i don't play for a month there is no point in paying for FFXI. This in my opinion is common sense.

The reason i don't play isn't because i think I NEED $13 for steam. It's because FFXI lacks content for me and the dev team seems to be focusing more on making us jump through time sinks rather than let us just enjoy the new content.

Like i said it make me feel like i spent $30 on a game that tells me "You can only play this 10 mins a day" and all i can say is yea ... wtf.

Lastly, no i haven't completed everything in FFXI but why do things that i don't enjoy. Though i can say i have completed everything that to me is fun enough to keep my interest and for me is enough ^^ it's not like at the end of the day i'm gonna be like "My only regret in my life is that i didn't make a 3rd relic and complete the PUP storyline quests", it's just not that important to me.

Either way, value for time wise i wasted too much on something that'll prolly be read by noone that cares so keep well ^^.

[Caketime]

$13 will get you a case of decent beer, or dragons and goblins and headaches for a month. Seems like an easy choice to me.

[Mirage]

The obvious choice is a case of decent beer consumed while dragoning and goblining.

[Caketime]

Nothing goes better with goblins than beer. :3

[Bizniztyme]

I have, and that's still a stupid argument. Even before I did Garrison for the first time I knew I wouldn't like it. Do I have to try everything out before I get to complain about a lack of content? Does me not having every relic or mythic mean I can't ask for content I actually like?

Oh....so just because you don't like it it's not content....other people can't like it and enjoy it? GTFO... In that case, i'll say it again, don't like it don't pay....move on....

That's also completely misleading, like I said in previous post. These things have to be looked at in a competitive way. Food doesn't compete with FFXI. Food competes with other food, which is similarly priced. FFXI competes with other MMOGs, which are similarly priced, and among those it has one of the worst value/cost ratios.

OK...so your opinion is ffxi cannot compete with other mmos of today? I say they certainly are being up for 10 years and still making a profit....Just because you don't think it's value/cost ratio is not good doesnt mean other people don't think so...your opinion is not fact like you always seem to state.

[Bizniztyme]

Because, like I said, it's not my opinion. To me, it's worth the money, that's why I pay. But it's certainly not because the game is objectively good. The entire structure is falling apart at every end, the game is buggy as hell and has been for over a decade, customer interaction is non-existent, content is repetitive and the release schedule is slow. That is not an opinion, that is fact. I enjoy what little there is atm, and I enjoy playing with my linkshell and helping newbies figure out how to play this wreck of a game and I enjoy doing certain related stuff outside of the game.

Again, throwing your opinion out there like it's a fact. Try again. Just because you feel that way doesnt mean other people feel the same. I feel customer interaction is there, content is not repetitive but plentiful, and release schedule is just fine the way l like it. So just by that, doesnt make your opinion a fact.

Multimillion dollar businesses go broke too. Do you think that's part of their ingenious plan that my unrich mind cannot comprehend?

Sure, who would i trust more to know something? A muti billion dollar business or a backseat CEO that can't even run a bath?

SE got rich because they made games that were popular, not because they were great at business plans. If a game company stops making great games, they go broke. And FFXI is losing players. So yes, multimillion dollar companies do not always know what's best for them. They did not get rich because they have a clue. They got rich because they had fanboys. Right now they're losing fanboys. What does your genius mind say will happen next? Or will you leave the thinking to them, because they're obviously so good at it?

I'm no genius, again, i just know that i would rather trust a multi billion dollar business then a forum poster that thinks he knows how to run a business but really he can't even run a bath(your words)

[Bizniztyme]

Missed the point, all i said is for me 2/3 of the time my 12.95 is better spent. Like i said before when i don't play for a month there is no point in paying for FFXI. This in my opinion is common sense.

The reason i don't play isn't because i think I NEED $13 for steam. It's because FFXI lacks content for me and the dev team seems to be focusing more on making us jump through time sinks rather than let us just enjoy the new content.

Like i said it make me feel like i spent $30 on a game that tells me "You can only play this 10 mins a day" and all i can say is yea ... wtf.

Lastly, no i haven't completed everything in FFXI but why do things that i don't enjoy. Though i can say i have completed everything that to me is fun enough to keep my interest and for me is enough ^^ it's not like at the end of the day i'm gonna be like "My only regret in my life is that i didn't make a 3rd relic and complete the PUP storyline quests", it's just not that important to me.

Either way, value for time wise i wasted too much on something that'll prolly be read by noone that cares so keep well ^^.

Ok, i'll say it again, if you don't enjoy it, don't play. It's that simple and that's common sense. Don't be complaining that it cost too much when all it comes out to is about 50 cents a day.

[Bizniztyme]

SE got rich because they made games that were popular, not because they were great at business plans. If a game company stops making great games, they go broke. And FFXI is losing players. So yes, multimillion dollar companies do not always know what's best for them. They did not get rich because they have a clue. They got rich because they had fanboys. Right now they're losing fanboys. What does your genius mind say will happen next? Or will you leave the thinking to them, because they're obviously so good at it?

LOL they got rich because they had fanboys? How do you think they got fanboys in the first place? By having a business plan to make games to garner these fanboys. You sir are the one with no clue.