FINAL FANTASY XI® Seekers of Adoulin

[Dragoy]

-The Huge Negatives of a CRT TV is their Bulk and weight.

What about the eye-strain inducing flicker? =¯=

Of course experiences vary from user to user.

[Gilraen]

You must have really sensitive eyes to notice the refresh rate of a CRT-style TV. Usually, to see that you have to view a TV through a video camera... unless you have video cameras for eyes!

[deces]

I cant wail till when hexbox is on SE's chopping block.

[Dragoy]

I'm not saying I can see it like it can be seen through a camera, but that does not mean that it isn't affecting our eyes!

Though actually, I haven't been watching the TV for months (still have a tubey TV yeah!), and only been staring the LCD instead. Just some days ago, as I looked at such a TV, the picture did seem quite annoying, flickering, and another person who has been watching it, instead of only LCD, did not really notice anything.

I'd first imagine it's just my eyes going, but after I mentioned it to a friend who also has been more or less only looking at LCDs, he'd have the same sort of experiences so we'd conclude it's a bit of a matter of getting used to them.

That's of course an uneducated conclusion, but I can say for sure, that once I switched from a CRT monitor to LCD, my eye-strain levels definitely decreased.

[bungiefanNA]

No, I don't think you understand what piracy is. Making a copy of something, like a movie or a game or OS, then giving that copy away is piracy, therefor illegal. Money doesn't have to change hands for it to be piracy, though it does change how much money in reparations the suing party can get if it ever goes to court. Nor does prior ownership of either individual involved as then it comes down to proving that you own the copied material, and in the case of games with codes and OSes only one person will be able to make that claim. I'll not be a party to such behavior.

Install doesn't ask you for registration codes. Logging in to an existing account doesn't ask for registration codes. Registration codes to make accounts aren't even platform-specific, just region-specific. If the game is installed and you have an account (which would mean you are paying SE for the game), you can log in, regardless of how it was installed. I know of nobody that has been confronted about this, and SE could easily make the game require a means of proof of ownership of the installation media for each platform. PS2 only requires it because of the mandatory region designation on discs which can't be copied, and Xbox 360 requires the disc to launch the game because of MS rules.

Most PC software can install from borrowed media, but some sort of registration code verification makes it useless unless you bought a unique code. FFXI is not such software. It acts like a web browser, it grants you access to servers you have an account with. As such I don't see it as unethical or immoral to install the client with whatever resources I have, when I'm being billed for access to the game. SE apparently doesn't either, seeing as they aren't prosecuting or banning people for doing so.

[IBHalliwellJR]

Greetings,

I’d like to take a moment to clarify which platform Seekers of Adoulin will be available on for those that have been asking. We will continue to support North American FINAL FANTASY XI players on the PlayStation 2, Xbox 360 and PC (Windows) platforms. However, FINAL FANTASY XI: Seekers of Adoulin will only be available on the Xbox 360 and Windows platforms in North America when it is released in 2013.

I find the lack of future Sony Game Console support very disquieting. I fully recognize and understand the aging Sony PS2 console line is coming to an end, YET, Square Enix for Final Fantasy XI isn't offering any Sony Game Console support.

My Son and I recently returned to Final Fantasy XI after being away for a year and our recent investments are in Sony Playstation 3 (with PS2 game support). While I started FFXI with two (2) PS2 systems and later expanded to three systems (for my daughter), those are the system of old. Recently, I started replacing those three systems with PS3 systems, which when you include PS2 support is NOT cheap.

PS3 with FFXI support (e.g. PS2) runs around $400 used in good condition to $1,000 brand new (and yes you can still find the 80 GB PS3 with PS2 support for sale brand new and never registered). It does blow the Sony support mind when you call up to register a "old" PS3 system as brand new, but they do it.

I find it very sad that SE obviously has the PS2 code done, tested, and ready for release but won't give it to non-Japanese. I'm wondering if there is a bias or racial reasoning behind this decision. I don't take this feeling lightly, as I realize from spending time in Japan of the cultural aspect non-Japanese hold and it is NOT a stretch to see where non-Japanese support is simply not considered important or vital.

NOTE: I wouldn't feel this way if the PS2 version didn't exist at all, but it does . . . Also I'm just not understanding why there isn't PS3 support for FFXI, after all PS3 has been out long enough and is still the main gaming console of Sony.

BTW, to those who ask ... well, why not Xbox 360? Before going to the PS3 system, I closely considered the Xbox 360 systems, but choose the PS3 over the 360 for two reasons:

1) Square Enix statement of continued FFXI expansion creation, as long as there were customers. Obviously this is still the case even for PS2!!!!!
2) I saw many YouTube Videos of Xbox 360 having disc eating situations, as well as the unit turning itself into a brick for what sounded like no reasonable reason.

I guess there is a third reason: My Son and Daughter have many PS2 video games, while I don't they do and I didn't want to look at the cost of replacing them (well, some are only on PS2 or PS3 - I think).

At this point, I don't know what to do ... one thought is to go with the Xbox 360, but hey, Square Enix might only support the 360 in South America in 2014 or who knows what ... Once burned one does become shy and by burned I mean .. HONESTLY, I did believe SE when they said they'd continue future expansion support for FFXI, which they're not doing completely / 100%!!!!

Those of us outside Japan are still paying our monthly fees (for me - 3 POL accounts and over 28 characters).

[FrankReynolds]

I find the lack of future Sony Game Console support very disquieting. I fully recognize and understand the aging Sony PS2 console line is coming to an end, YET, Square Enix for Final Fantasy XI isn't offering any Sony Game Console support.

My Son and I recently returned to Final Fantasy XI after being away for a year and our recent investments are in Sony Playstation 3 (with PS2 game support). While I started FFXI with two (2) PS2 systems and later expanded to three systems (for my daughter), those are the system of old. Recently, I started replacing those three systems with PS3 systems, which when you include PS2 support is NOT cheap.

PS3 with FFXI support (e.g. PS2) runs around $400 used in good condition to $1,000 brand new (and yes you can still find the 80 GB PS3 with PS2 support for sale brand new and never registered). It does blow the Sony support mind when you call up to register a "old" PS3 system as brand new, but they do it.

I find it very sad that SE obviously has the PS2 code done, tested, and ready for release but won't give it to non-Japanese. I'm wondering if there is a bias or racial reasoning behind this decision. I don't take this feeling lightly, as I realize from spending time in Japan of the cultural aspect non-Japanese hold and it is NOT a stretch to see where non-Japanese support is simply not considered important or vital.

NOTE: I wouldn't feel this way if the PS2 version didn't exist at all, but it does . . . Also I'm just not understanding why there isn't PS3 support for FFXI, after all PS3 has been out long enough and is still the main gaming console of Sony.

BTW, to those who ask ... well, why not Xbox 360? Before going to the PS3 system, I closely considered the Xbox 360 systems, but choose the PS3 over the 360 for two reasons:

1) Square Enix statement of continued FFXI expansion creation, as long as there were customers. Obviously this is still the case even for PS2!!!!!
2) I saw many YouTube Videos of Xbox 360 having disc eating situations, as well as the unit turning itself into a brick for what sounded like no reasonable reason.

I guess there is a third reason: My Son and Daughter have many PS2 video games, while I don't they do and I didn't want to look at the cost of replacing them (well, some are only on PS2 or PS3 - I think).

At this point, I don't know what to do ... one thought is to go with the Xbox 360, but hey, Square Enix might only support the 360 in South America in 2014 or who knows what ... Once burned one does become shy and by burned I mean .. HONESTLY, I did believe SE when they said they'd continue future expansion support for FFXI, which they're not doing completely / 100%!!!!

Those of us outside Japan are still paying our monthly fees (for me - 3 POL accounts and over 28 characters).

Get the PC version. There are a lot of reasons why most MMOs are on the PC. Too many to name them all. Do yourself a favor and make the switch. You won't regret it unless you really want to hate it.

[Arbalest]

I find the lack of future Sony Game Console support very disquieting. I fully recognize and understand the aging Sony PS2 console line is coming to an end, YET, Square Enix for Final Fantasy XI isn't offering any Sony Game Console support.

My Son and I recently returned to Final Fantasy XI after being away for a year and our recent investments are in Sony Playstation 3 (with PS2 game support). While I started FFXI with two (2) PS2 systems and later expanded to three systems (for my daughter), those are the system of old. Recently, I started replacing those three systems with PS3 systems, which when you include PS2 support is NOT cheap.

PS3 with FFXI support (e.g. PS2) runs around $400 used in good condition to $1,000 brand new (and yes you can still find the 80 GB PS3 with PS2 support for sale brand new and never registered). It does blow the Sony support mind when you call up to register a "old" PS3 system as brand new, but they do it.

I find it very sad that SE obviously has the PS2 code done, tested, and ready for release but won't give it to non-Japanese. I'm wondering if there is a bias or racial reasoning behind this decision. I don't take this feeling lightly, as I realize from spending time in Japan of the cultural aspect non-Japanese hold and it is NOT a stretch to see where non-Japanese support is simply not considered important or vital.

NOTE: I wouldn't feel this way if the PS2 version didn't exist at all, but it does . . . Also I'm just not understanding why there isn't PS3 support for FFXI, after all PS3 has been out long enough and is still the main gaming console of Sony.

BTW, to those who ask ... well, why not Xbox 360? Before going to the PS3 system, I closely considered the Xbox 360 systems, but choose the PS3 over the 360 for two reasons:

1) Square Enix statement of continued FFXI expansion creation, as long as there were customers. Obviously this is still the case even for PS2!!!!!
2) I saw many YouTube Videos of Xbox 360 having disc eating situations, as well as the unit turning itself into a brick for what sounded like no reasonable reason.

I guess there is a third reason: My Son and Daughter have many PS2 video games, while I don't they do and I didn't want to look at the cost of replacing them (well, some are only on PS2 or PS3 - I think).

At this point, I don't know what to do ... one thought is to go with the Xbox 360, but hey, Square Enix might only support the 360 in South America in 2014 or who knows what ... Once burned one does become shy and by burned I mean .. HONESTLY, I did believe SE when they said they'd continue future expansion support for FFXI, which they're not doing completely / 100%!!!!

Those of us outside Japan are still paying our monthly fees (for me - 3 POL accounts and over 28 characters).

MMOs are on PCs for a reason. In this day and age, with decent computers EXTREMELY cheap, there's no reason to not have one or two in the house. Besides, FFXI is so old you can basically run it on a toaster.

PS2 is what limits the game's true potential, and I for one think they should drop support for PS2 entirely.

[Tickmeoff]

BTW, to those who ask ... well, why not Xbox 360?

Nobody is asking this.

Everyone is asking "why would you spend several thousand dollars on THREE PS3s in order to play the inferior PS2 version of a game?" You could have picked up 3 half decent PCs for significantly less money.

I hope we see PS2 support dropped completely at some point. It's only holding the game back.

[hideka]

I find it very sad that SE obviously has the PS2 code done, tested, and ready for release but won't give it to non-Japanese. I'm wondering if there is a bias or racial reasoning behind this decision. I don't take this feeling lightly, as I realize from spending time in Japan of the cultural aspect non-Japanese hold and it is NOT a stretch to see where non-Japanese support is simply not considered important or vital.

please break your keyboard and never post in another online forum again if all your going to tout off is stupid Americanized logic like this. People like you are the reason people like me have no faith in the american society anymore. i bet your one of those people who cant miss an episode of american idol or *inster any random other horrible reality tv show here*. please stop being a tool. thank you.