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  1. #201
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    Cruor led to hyperinflation due to NEW gil being pumped in faster than it could be pumped out(Legion/Limbus/Einherjar hardly delete much gil compared to the crapton of gil being pumped in every hour from NPC sales. Dynamis Currency selling doesn't create or destroy any gil since it's being traded between players. Blinkers>NPC generates NEW gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    You're going to invest in gold?
    Dyna currency probably. New currency can only be generated within limits (unlike blinker gilfountain), and it has some epic size drains to remove it from the economy. It's also well known and traded frequently.

    SE would also have to implement a barter trade system to make it easier to buy and sell goods using DC (Dynamis Currency).
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    Yeah, that's probably what I would have ended up with. It would be either that, or alexandrite, but dyna is easier to trade.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 10-26-2012 at 07:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Cruor led to hyperinflation due to NEW gil being pumped in faster than it could be pumped out(Legion/Limbus/Einherjar hardly delete much gil compared to the crapton of gil being pumped in every hour from NPC sales. Dynamis Currency selling doesn't create or destroy any gil since it's being traded between players. Blinkers>NPC generates NEW gil.
    true, but a lot of ppl also used curor to pay for the dyna curency. With out that income the amount of ppl able to mass afford curency could see a decline.
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    Not necessarily. In the short term, this might happen, seeing as people will have to be more careful about their money now that they can't print new money whenever they need it.

    I am of the opinion that dyna currency currently is inflated, due to them not having dropped in price even though the supply has increased tremendously. Compared to pre-dyna renewal, dyna currency is now at least 5 times easier to acquire (if you're a low-mid tier farmer), and each farming run does no longer drain 500k gil out of circulation. However, prices seem to stay at almost the same level as before, which is strange when the supply has increased by an extreme amount. Without inflation, you would have expected them to decrease significantly.

    If this is indeed the case, what will happen is that dyna currency will probably drop in price to something that is closer to their non-inflated prices.

    As prices drop, dyna farmers will undoubtly cry out in agony over not being able to make as many millions a day as before. However, this is unimportant. As long as people put a high value on relic weapons, dyna currency will be worth farming for. The supply will adjust according to the demand. If too many farm it, it will drop. if too few farm it, it will rise. If the prices drop too much, fewer will farm it, it it rises too much, too many will farm it, and so the cycle goes.

    People just have to remember that things are relative, an economy is dynamic, not static. Value isn't determined by the amount of zeroes in your gil figure. Remember, a japanese person with a 400000 yen yearly income isn't richer than an american with a 100000 dollar yearly income. The value of gil will change as a result of this update. Earning 2000 gil instead of 6000 from a whiteshell isn't bad if you can buy a stack of red curry buns for 40000 instead of 110000 gil.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 10-27-2012 at 02:26 AM.

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    Have a point, but at the same time i dont see dyna currency goign down all to much. In some cases its as low as 5-7k. Even with deflation, if it goes down to much more, ppl will stop bothering. At the same time, for a while im sure all the extra ppl in dyna will change it a bit to. So well see jsut how much for both sides'
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    But when people stop farming dyna because it's not profitable enough, supply will drop and prices will rise again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    Valid point, but I'm not sure its completely accurate. If a HmP was buyable with curor for say 10k each (not a hard amount to obtain), needing 1500 plates would cost 15 million curor. Which overall is a hefty amount to acquire. Granted it would still be a lot faster to obtain them then hopeing on a vw drop, but I'm not sure they would be 'all over the place'

    And if it is true, the price could be raised. With Hmp Selling somewhere around an avg 100k a plate, the old curor exchange rate would require roughly 38k curor to buy one. So you could raise the price to 30-40k a plate. (45-60mil)

    Of course i still think its all ridicules. Would rather undo this nerf and work on alternate ways of removing gill form the system, rather then just making it less generatable.
    Can farm over a million cruor a day. That would make it way too easy. And no one would buy plates with gil if it were that much of a return. They would probably just go farm cruor instead, as it would be a waste of gil to buy plates.
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    If gil deflation is coming, I would sit on my liquid gil.

    unless you think whatever you're buying is gonna increase in price more than the deflation.
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    Last edited by Raksha; 10-28-2012 at 03:22 AM.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

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    I think a deflation is very unlikely, it would take years of the current game pace to take even remotely enough money out of the economy to even get back to where we were before Blinkers.
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