Adjustments to Embrava and Perfect Defense

[Winrie]

I've been playin this game for quite some time and I've seen about every nerf and banhammer there's been. I'm normally one to preach about not complaining about difficulty in this game but with all this shit I've read on nerf sticks to our most vital elements for victory against adl, nyzul ect, I'm going to say this to the devs, there's a difference in challenge with difficult obstacles to obtain victory over your foes and NEARLY F**KING IMPOSSIBLE. you cannot even tell me lowering mob hp yet not fixing their idiotically steriod infested power is BALANCED CONTENT. with a push of a button you make all this content WE USE EMBRAVA AND PERFECT DEFENSE SO MUCH ON BECAUSE IT'S FILLED WITH STUPID ONE SHOT MOVES AND MOBS THAT HIT LIKE 18 WHEELERS, even more difficult than they were with the damn spells up and active. I don't see the logic or how you guys can even remotely think this will end well. You guys forget you design this game for US NOT YOURSELVES. I'd say please take this entire thread full of negative outlook and reconsider what really needs to be fixed but judging on the past, SE will continue to always think it is right and the PAYING CUSTOMERS, WHETHER NEW OR CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE BEEN DEDICATED FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, are wrong as usual until you finally are a bankrupt company. I pray you listen this time.

[Dekar]

From looking at the post briefly it looks like the fan base is not happy with this update. I'm a little sad, I always thought these boards would give better communication between the Dev team and the players but it simply seems like the player's opinions are still second to the development team. I just think that's really sad.

[Luvbunny]

So basically we now can use Embrava + PD and augment this with the following:
a. Summoners can do the following:
- Hastega (last 3-5 mnts) with additional 15% haste
- Noctoshield though Phalanx will be better from Scholar with maxed enhancing magic
- Earthen Ward
- Earthen Armor
- Inferno Howl for additional 40 damage per swing.
b. Scholar can do the following:
- Phalanxga with Ascencion + Perpetuance to last double the duration
- Regen 5 with Ascencion + Perpetuance
- Adloquium with Ascencion + Perpetuance
- Firestorm with Ascencion + Perpetuance for additional STR+7
c. Other jobs can do:
- Diffusion + Cocoon from Blue Mage
- Sentinel's Scherzo from Bard
- Double March from Bard
- Tactician's Roll from Corsair
- Boost STR from Whm

If anything now a good Summoner and Scholar will bring plenty of fun tools to reduce further damage on the melee DD party if you do it right - assuming those squishy mages are not dead within the first round of AOEs. And then you can swap them with Bard and Corsair accordingly. I wonder if they are going to swing another nerf bats to all those things above....

[Babekeke]

So, PD duration reduced by (realistically) 40%... therefore, the mobs HP has been reduced by 10% in the name of balance.

I just hope that when people try this content on the test server they remember to leave their hacks turned off and do it properly to show that noone can even kill a single mob.

[Vagrua]

Not to be rude to your corporation as a whole, but if your customers are pretty much telling you that they don't desire something changed and you are ignoring it or just don't care, it shows how much you value your playerbase/subscribers.

The response, if any, given back from the community reps to address this topic should pick their words very wisely. You've been walking on thin ice lately. It seems that instead of actually fixing issues within the game, you're choosing the easy shortcuts.

[Luvbunny]

I wonder if this so called refresh effect is 1 mp per tick lol, and actually stack with sublimation, or stack with refresh + mage ballad. The least they can do is adjusting Adloquium to 3tp gain per tick with capped enhancing magic. This way they can say that they rebalance it without really taking away much since there are other ways to close the gap.

[Spiriel]

Well, Camate did say:

Regain Effect: While the value will remain unchanged, the Regain effect will be changed to Refresh.

I'd assume that means the effect of Refresh will give the same amount that Regain gave per tick, not that anyone will care, what with it being Refresh.

All I read from his post was, "Embrava isn't gonna be very helpful anymore", regardless. Really hoping that they'll follow through with that promise they made about buffing sch and smn in some way to help define them as jobs, but given their track record, I'm not exactly holding my breath.

[Afania]

Also, why are Watcher and ADL unaffected?

They already explained.


I'm not sure about ADL as I only done a few before. But for watcher, it probably wouldn't make THAT much of a difference. It's a nerf, for sure. But it probably shouldn't make watcher unbeatable.

Atm watcher is a 90 sec~120 sec zerg for average DDs with 100% win rate. Before nerf the buffs were embrava+ SV acc song x1+ attack song x3 with none empy BRD x2. So if there are any empy BRD, extra song slot doesn't offer much more with 2nd acc or 4th attack song. So if you go with an empy BRD, it offers pretty much the same amount of buff after nerf as long as the fight doesn't last too long. Watcher wouldn't suddenly become unbeatable without embrava.

Legion got a pretty big hit though, as we often only use 1 BRD. With uncapped acc and such, there are little extra song slot for march unless your BRD has 4 songs.

I honestly feel legion HP-10% isn't enough. It's evasion and defense, on top of AoE dmg should be nerfed. I'd much rather want their HP stays the same, but def/eva/AoE dmg got nerfed, rather than mere HP-10%.

[Monchat]

Not to be rude to your corporation as a whole, but if your customers are pretty much telling you that they don't desire something changed and you are ignoring it or just don't care, it shows how much you value your playerbase/subscribers.

we all want things to change. The problem is that, as expected, they nerf PD and embrava and hardly fix content. They didn't realize yeat that people use PD/embrava because content is impossible without, not because they can.

[Mayoyama]

Incoming SMN rotations needed to keep PD up for longer... rofl. Now people will be bringing 2 SMN to do what 1 SMN used to do!

Fully agree ADL needs to be adjusted....