To Dev's, are there any plans to fix Neo Nyzul Isle?

[Sp1cyryan]

I wasn't being stupid with it. You were. The need for a chat app was created by SE. They put in an event that more or less requires voice chat into a game that does not support voice chat. You are lacking important mental faculties if you don't see the problem there.

If, only, could, read. Lack, minds eye,, make,, 2,, response.

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

[Plasticleg]

Or you all could cry less and make effective chat macros to signify your party what is going on...

Shocker.

[FrankReynolds]

If, only, could, read. Lack, minds eye,, make,, 2,, response.

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

If you don't like hearing other people's opinions about game development, go read a different forum / thread. This one is about... game development, specifically regarding NNI. This is the part where the conversation degrades to "Your Momma" jokes because you are outta stuff to say.

Or you all could cry less and make effective chat macros to signify your party what is going on...

Shocker.

LOL that's a good one. Care to share your super efficient macros mr. helpfulpants?

[Plasticleg]

LOL that's a good one. Care to share your super efficient macros mr. helpfulpants?

Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

[Sp1cyryan]

If you don't like hearing other people's opinions about game development, go read a different forum / thread.

Where did you get that from? I never said or insinuated that..

This one is about... game development, specifically regarding NNI.

Okay..?

This is the part where the conversation degrades to "Your Momma" jokes because you are outta stuff to say.

Says the guy who starts saying others lack the mental capacity to see things. When I stoop to your level and when you get to "yo mamma" jokes. Then we can talk about it.

[FrankReynolds]

Where did you get that from? I never said or insinuated that..

oh, I guess you were being serious when you said:

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

And here I am thinking you were trying to tell me to shut up about game development. My bad. I'm glad you respect my opinion enough to suggest I apply for the team. That's very big of you.

Says the guy who starts saying others lack the mental capacity to see things. When I stoop to your level and when you get to "yo mamma" jokes. Then we can talk about it.

Says the guy who replied with:

Please don't be stupid with it.

When I took his broken logic and showed the flaws. Face it. Your arguing against something that would make the game better just to spite people who you deem lazier or less skilled than you. You would rather the game lack in features than let people who you see as unworthy have something they want. There is no reason why an official chat app can't be developed and used for more than just FFXI.

But that's beside the real point, which is that something that does not exist in the game should not be required in order to be good at the game. It's a fact that NNI is nigh impossible to win without a large number of things completely unrelated to your skill all coming together perfecftly.

NNI is basically a three hundred foot tall wall in the outfield with a few roided up d-bags who can hit one out telling the camera "It's not about taking performance enhancing drugs and having the catcher tell you what pitch is coming and using corked bats guys... these other guys just need to learn to swing smarterer..."

Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

I think we both know that none of those macros are going to make a party anywhere near as efficient as a group using skype.

There's no way around it man. Natural speech is far more efficient without even trying to rush it.

[Plasticleg]

There's no way around it man. Natural speech is far more efficient without even trying to rush it.

I'm not saying that it's better or as efficient. What I'm saying is that it 'can' be done.
We use the macro for one person, who unfortunately cannot join us on Skype.
And with your logic, wiki is for botters, pos-hackers, and people who run around at Mazurka speed. K.

[Sp1cyryan]

I'm glad you respect my opinion enough to suggest I apply for the team. That's very big of you.

I think a lot of people would see it all differently if they put themselves in the teams shoes. Which is exactly why I am against the idea, but yes sincerely I think you should apply to be a Dev.

When I took his broken logic and showed the flaws. Face it. Your arguing against something that would make the game better just to spite people who you deem lazier or less skilled than you. You would rather the game lack in features than let people who you see as unworthy have something they want. There is no reason why an official chat app can't be developed and used for more than just FFXI.

Here is what you are trying to peg me on. That I think there is a negative reason against some chat program being made for the game. I am not, and in fact it be to my benefit so I did not have to ask people to download something like Vent for events. It has nothing to do with arrogance, narcissism, or the sort.

I do not see them doing it because lets be honest. Are they really doing to spend the time trying to make a chat program that works between PS2 and Xbox users? On top of Xbox Live then factoring in and becoming a hassle. I just do not see it as a realistic goal because of all the details here and there. Now if it was just for PC users then sure it wouldn't be anything groundbreaking to have to develop, but SE won't do that because it creates offsets the "balance" of the platforms. We have heard their responses on matters enough to be able to generally anticipate if they would be willing to do things or not. Just like they will not expand the macro lines for the same rationale.

That is all excluding the effectiveness of choosing it over existing options too.

The logic here is not broken at all.

But that's beside the real point, which is that something that does not exist in the game should not be required in order to be good at the game.

It does not make you good. It just helps, and your request is like complaining that the batteries are not included for the toys, the additional parts are sold separately, and the HDMI wire does not come with the new TV. How many things in life do you come across a situation where you actually want/need to get items not included in a purchase?

A cookie jar does not come with cookies inside and you should not be surprised when you get home and your decade old cookie jar initially running on an even older table station 2 does not have the ability to chat with a PC, a PS3, and an Xbox living on its own island with its own chat system and a different set of rules. Frankly I was surprised I did not need a gold membership to play this on Xbox.

We get more bang for our buck if SE just works on content rather than making something which already exists for anyone who owns a PC.

NNI is basically a three hundred foot tall wall in the outfield with a few roided up d-bags who can hit one out telling the camera "It's not about taking performance enhancing drugs and having the catcher tell you what pitch is coming and using corked bats guys... these other guys just need to learn to swing smarterer...

I disagree.

The reality is that we are not in the MLB, but the Sandlot. When you have a group filled with a bunch of new kids on the block then you will just end up saying "you are killing me Smalls". When you have a team filled with Benny Rodriguez you will have a natural advantage over a team of Ham, Squints, and two twins who repeat themselves.

This is not about Bugs Bunny vs the Mon-Stars in a game of basketball as your odds. It is about going in with a good team for your best chance to beat the RNG. Nothing more and nothing less. Even cheaters lose here, but yes it does increase your odds.

There is no 300 foot wall, no team of roid filled players, and the only corked bats are the people who all have E/M/R weapons.

[Crimson_Slasher]

Put me on the list for wanting this event adjusted in the nearer future.

[MarkovChain]

Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

hye guys, I heard doing macros is a good way to communicate with people. The best macro in nyzul is hermes' sandals.