Pet th - Just hear me out

[Malthar]

Another troll?

The original post includes nothing about gear. The original post is a request to allow DipperYuley to proc higher TH as other thf's do. It's not to give the master the th trait of any kind, but allow the thief type pet to proc higher TH.

[Plasticleg]

Another troll?

The original post includes nothing about gear. The original post is a request to allow DipperYuley to proc higher TH as other thf's do. It's not to give the master the th trait of any kind, but allow the thief type pet to proc higher TH.

you are missing the whole point of bst being a pet job, eh?

[scaevola]

The original post includes nothing about gear. The original post is a request to allow DipperYuley to proc higher TH as other thf's do. It's not to give the master the th trait of any kind, but allow the thief type pet to proc higher TH.

Yes, but why

why does BST need this thing when nobody thinks BST is in any way deficient at farming

why should dipper yuly be able to proc higher levels of TH when anybody subbing THF cannot

edit: your OP mentions the denial of pet gear as justification for your suggestion, but it doesn't really matter; more TH for BST is a crummy idea regardless of where it comes from

[FrankReynolds]

Yes, but why

why does BST need this thing when nobody thinks BST is in any way deficient at farming

why should dipper yuly be able to proc higher levels of TH when anybody subbing THF cannot

edit: your OP mentions the denial of pet gear as justification for your suggestion, but it doesn't really matter; more TH for BST is a crummy idea regardless of where it comes from

Look, here's the basics:

If a person intends to (or has the means to) farm in a group, then beast is not going to be as good of a choice for getting drops as thief is, Regardless of the level of TH on his pet.

If a person intends to solo, they will likely go beast.

If said soloing person does not have TH in effect on his pet, he will probably have to kill whatever it is he is killing more times to get the desired drop.

This means that other people wanting to kill the same NM or farm the same area just have more competition for said area / NM.

Do you see the problem? Your basically saying "I would rather get screwed out of claim on an NM or ??? or fight with people over farming a certain area than let this guy have an easy time of things."

You are pulling the classic crab in a pot maneuver. Gotta hold the other guy down cuz I don't care about making myself better.

Arguing about how TH is super powerful and important so other jobs cannot have it just leads the devs to believe that thief is super powerful and awesome as is. Which leads to bst getting TH taken away and thief getting nothing in return. Everybody loses and now I have to compete with the same beast in dynamis for even longer because its taking him longer to build his relic.

They basically addressed the fact that thief is not nearly as good at farming as it should be by nerfing a couple of pets because making thief more powerful would have been hard. Unfortunately all they did is annoy bsts.

[tyrantsyn]

you are either ignorant or ignoring an important point.
They are wearing perle armor. they were abyssea burned their levels and they are players who only have bst for dyna farming. They are the same players who were bandwagon, sam, bandwagon mnk, bandwagon anything.

don't blame the enthusiasts of the job for what some ill-mannered players do.

Perhaps on your server their all deck out in perle, I've seen them deck out all the way up to NNI gear.

Lol you said it bub not me. The idea is very similar to nin/dnc and their lack of a voke, but arguing they should get one,.... Only diffrence being, nins were never teased with one, and had it taken away.

Animated flourish is not consider a voke in that combo?

[tyrantsyn]

Look the root of the issue here is over camping during JA proc time's. No one bother's with the other's because there proc rate's suck. If anything needs to be address it's that. I don't know how the dev's can look at the zone's at this point and not think to themselves "why is every one /DNC" and not see a problem with it.

Going for Magical proc's slow's killing down to a crawl

WS proc's don't work because the mob die's too quickly. And un like the JA proc, you can't turn to halt damage and continue to try and proc.

If these proc rate's were given a better % you wouldn't see so many /dnc running around. Or a mob type completely wipe out for the next 5 minutes because of over camping.

[Camiie]

more TH for BST is a crummy idea regardless of where it comes from

Geez, you act like BST is competing against THF for party spots. You guys can push TH higher than anyone, and it will always be thus. You guys have abilities that are much more complimentary to party play than BST. All we have is Killer Instinct, and we can't even take advantage of it a good chunk of the time. So what if we have a little TH working for us when we're out on our own. It's not hurting you except maybe in Dynamis, but that's because Dynamis is now and always has been a fustercluck of a hitshole. Are you upset that a BST doesn't have to call on your aid to apply TH to something? Don't you think BSTs get upset sometimes that people hardly ever need them?

[Xilk]

tyrantsyn is right on the money. The trouble w/ Dynamis has nothing to do w/ BST. Its all about proc rate for JA's vs WS and Magic. If the proc rate were adjusted, the currency famers would be better distributed throughout the zones.

As far as Pet th goes, I miss it more for NM gear hunting than anything else.

As far as jobs /thf not being able to match yuly for TH pre-nerf, its false.
Taru-taru sash gives all those jobs a shot at th3 which was the same yuly got. Blu mage can get th2 w/out /thf and I hope they dont' nerf that.

just clearing up some facts. I'm pretty tired of this discussion.

[Nawesemo]

Animated flourish is not consider a voke in that combo?[/QUOTE]

lol, you know I know you know its not.

[scaevola]

Camiie and Frank, nothing you've said about why BSTs should get more TH wouldn't apply to DNC. Should DNC not get more TH by those rationales?

WHY BST AND NOT EVERYBODY ELSE?