Well initially, it was an easier alternative to empyrean weapons, which were seen as much harder initially. And at first, that was accurate. getting coins could be done solo, and the next upgrade after that was very easy. this led people to think it was going to stay that way. Then they hit us with devious dice. with all the ppl in my LS vying for one, i decided to skip on the HTH empy because i thought I'd probably never get it. Now in hindsight that was possibly a mistake.

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Yeah we could get our own groups and go but it was still fun when the new stuff came out and you could just pop in with an entire freaking army of other players and have fun with them. Now speaking of other players sadly I don't know more then 6 who would even want to do WoE.