To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

[Eyeballed]

You realize that this thread is 50 pages long, right?

Do you ever stop and read what you type before you click the "post" button?

Yeah but I usually just find something to say 5 seconds after I post. If you'll look back, it's the reason for the edits. Like I said to scaevola, if people would contribute something we can go forward with instead of staying stalemate with flame after flame then this thread would have died a long time ago. But get ready, because it's coming again.

[Eric]

Except you're not contributing anything either, and you know it! You said it yourself, you're not willing to go out quietly.

50 pages of people proving you wrong and discrediting your crazy claims and arguments and you still won't give up. It's clear that you're just dragging this out as long as you can, regardless of whether or not you even mean the things you say anymore.

EDIT: What is there even left to argue about anymore? Tell me, how can you still think it's a good idea to return exp back to the slow grind it used to be after everything everyone has said?

[scaevola]

What would you like us to contribute? If you want an affirmative defense of the way things are now, my post #490 outlines my own reasons for preferring the current game (coupled with the unspoken assumption that leveling and playing new jobs based on personal needs is an inherent part of FFXI), and also we could say getting to level 99 faster makes everyone better at the game because it forces you to play in more demanding situations you can actually fail (as opposed to succeed less quickly) in order to progress further (this is why everybody makes fun of people in aurore and perle gear).

But before I defend these, I want to hear your assertions as to why we ought to go back.

[Eyeballed]

Except you're not contributing anything either, and you know it! You said it yourself, you're not willing to go out quietly.

50 pages of people proving you wrong and discrediting your crazy claims and arguments and you still won't give up. It's clear that you're just dragging this out as long as you can, regardless of whether or not you even mean the things you say anymore.

EDIT: What is there even left to argue about anymore? Tell me, how can you still think it's a good idea to return exp back to the slow grind it used to be after everything everyone has said?

In a nutshell, what they've said is to the effect of "We don't want it because it's mindless, boring and pointless." Those are opinions. I have mine, and because I think to the contrary, I think it's a good idea. My position is, as was stated, "If the grind process is as you say, and the consensus is that the trip from Lv1 to cap is a mere formality, an unnecessary cumbersome obstacle, then should it not simply be removed?" If your side cannot see the point, then what is the point of its existence?

[Eyeballed]

What would you like us to contribute? If you want an affirmative defense of the way things are now, my post #490 outlines my own reasons for preferring the current game (coupled with the unspoken assumption that leveling and playing new jobs based on personal needs is an inherent part of FFXI), and also we could say getting to level 99 faster makes everyone better at the game because it forces you to play in more demanding situations you can actually fail (as opposed to succeed less quickly) in order to progress further (this is why everybody makes fun of people in aurore and perle gear).

But before I defend these, I want to hear your assertions as to why we ought to go back.

Because, like I said, I found a game I enjoyed in the trip up. You and others may not, and you might even dismiss it as utter BS, but being a paying customer I have every right to voice my opinion on the subject without being labeled as an idiot, essentially.

I've done my best to give you that much respect, though I think differently to you, and I expect as much in return.

[scaevola]

So you're saying the thread has played out as follows:

you: hey guys here is my opinion

us: no your opinion is dumb and here is why

you: damn dude it's just my opinion stop trolling

Sounds about right! At the end of the day, it comes full circle: the way we want it, you are free to pursue the XP method you prefer. The way you want it, we are not.

As for the rhetorical question re: should the XP grind just be removed????? I am going to take the privilege of being the first to say PS2 Limitations


EDIT: We cannot have a discussion if literally your only response when directly asked for a thesis is "I like it and I don't need another reason."

[Tsukino_Kaji]

the way we want it, you are free to pursue the XP method you prefer. The way you want it, we are not.

That's dumb and here's why. Everyone should be forced to aby burn after 30, because everything between 30 and 99 doesn't exist anymore.

[cidbahamut]

You have the right to your opinion. You do not have the right to have your opinion go unchallenged.

What you are doing now is trolling and flame-baiting.
Knock it off.

[Eyeballed]

So you're saying the thread has played out as follows:

you: hey guys here is my opinion

us: no your opinion is dumb and here is why

you: damn dude it's just my opinion stop trolling

Sounds about right! At the end of the day, it comes full circle: the way we want it, you are free to pursue the XP method you prefer. The way you want it, we are not.

As for the rhetorical question re: should the XP grind just be removed????? I am going to take the privilege of being the first to say PS2 Limitations

Sure you are. Remember SMN burns? Level sync at Qufim Island? What I fundamentally gather from your perspective is that you don't want to play the game as a whole, as it was designed. It's too much to ask for one reason or another; But, there are those of us who absolutely did want to play it as it was originally designed.

[scaevola]

That's dumb and here's why. Everyone should be forced to aby burn after 30, because everything between 30 and 99 doesn't exist anymore.

haha, if only!