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    Player Eyeballed's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    sounds liek you need a more reliant way to make gil without wasting resources, or relying on others.
    Sounds like you need a new argument. I suppose your next piece of infinite wisdom is that I throw away my seals, yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    In my defense you didn't exactly make yourself clear when you we're talking about ninjutsu skill levels not being at cap for another player. I still stand by my observation that the skilling system needs a complete overhaul.
    When the Ninja running Under Observation can't do his job because he's Lv99 and obviously has burned his way up, I certainly care. The other Ninja who wasn't ultra-gimp finished off his mob and had to help him through the other half of his. Almost cost us the run 3x over, if we hadn't had to carry him.
    I'm sorry, I did assume that people were aware this was in fact a BCNM 40, which means it is capped at Lv40. I would assume that anyone playing the game for any substantial period of time would know this one by now, along with RJ. What did you assume I was talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Apparently you've never done UO with 3 BLM. Stand in one spot and spam -ga. Can't get any easier than that. And it could have been just the same on your DRG DRG RDM Royal Jelly with a Red Mage that can't stick bind/gravity. Also, he would have only cost me a single orb, man.
    You don't need a third person for RJ with two DRGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    skill level would still be irrelevant on the ninjutsu.
    Actually no, Under Observation is a BCNM in which you fight 3 Hecteyes. They use a paralyze gaze often so doing a normal fight against them is bad. To make things worse its 3 people only, and 1 of them is tougher than the others. A normal strat for this fight is to have a RDM kite the large mob while the other 2 are either NIN, BLU, or BLM, and nuke the smaller ones to death with magic/ninjutsu. This is why skill does matter for this occasion, you need the skill for the magic damage the NIN is expected to use for fighting, if the NIN has low skill or is meleeing chances of failing rise due to killing slower, or being paralyzed for a good duration of the fight.

    Just pointing it out, in either case, should probably pay more attention to what you are replying to. I mean no offense, just if you are skimming posts then replying wrongly it looks kinda bad for both you & the others who are trying to make a point, because then people become like Rosina and think everyone is just trying to pick on them for no reason other than to be mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Sounds like you need a new argument. I suppose your next piece of infinite wisdom is that I throw away my seals, yeah?
    Please stop picking fights with every respondent to this thread and take advice or leave it.
    And throwing away seals is stupid; just save them up for BB items, by not using them for the chance of a chance that you'll get phalanx or utsu: ni.
    I'd focus your in-game time at hitting 99 on a job that can farm dynamis (preferably solo) and gearing that, instead of PUGs for BCNMs.
    But you have free will and you decide, just know that we are pointing you in more profitable directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Umm~ guys... Under Observation is a level 40 BCNM, I have no idea what level would have to do with this, or what your talking about when you say a KS99, because unless my eyes just avoided it, nothing was talked about outside of UO which is a BCNM40.
    I was just assuming that level 61 rdm didn't know / didn't discuss the strategy with the group that she didn't form (funny because I haven't seen a shout for that in probably a year) and she says she always forms her own groups. The funny thing is that I used to do that BCNM a lot for gil and I saw a lot of groups wipe to it back in the "good ole days". She's trying to blame abyssea for the guy sucking, but the truth is that he had to level to 30 without skilling before he got into abyssea. So at most you can blame abyssea for 10 levels of ninja skill ups.That shouldn't screw up a UO run, unless everyone else on the run sucks too.

    TLDR; from reading her previous posts, I find her highly suspect and would likely trust a level 99 burned nin over her on red mage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I'd rather have gone to bed without running it. As well, I have a little thing called patience, which for many of you I strongly assume is a foreign concept.
    Yes, doing nothing is super fun and patience is what people should need in a video game. /sarcasm I'll personally save that patience for the DMV or the line at the bank where it is rightfully expected, not in my entertainment. You will get no credit for work ethics in a video game from me. I have a real job for that sort of thing.

    Have you ever tried FFXIAH.com? They have a jeuno shout feature where you can just sit in jeuno and watch the shouts. It's just like old ffxi, only you don't have to pay a fee. You should just do that. We need more of that in the game. Or better yet, you can pay me for a game service where I provide you no entertainment and we both win
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Actually no, Under Observation is a BCNM in which you fight 3 Hecteyes. They use a paralyze gaze often so doing a normal fight against them is bad. To make things worse its 3 people only, and 1 of them is tougher than the others. A normal strat for this fight is to have a RDM kite the large mob while the other 2 are either NIN, BLU, or BLM, and nuke the smaller ones to death with magic/ninjutsu. This is why skill does matter for this occasion, you need the skill for the magic damage the NIN is expected to use for fighting, if the NIN has low skill or is meleeing chances of failing rise due to killing slower, or being paralyzed for a good duration of the fight.

    Just pointing it out, in either case, should probably pay more attention to what you are replying to. I mean no offense, just if you are skimming posts then replying wrongly it looks kinda bad for both you & the others who are trying to make a point, because then people become like Rosina and think everyone is just trying to pick on them for no reason other than to be mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    You don't need a third person for RJ with two DRGs.
    There we go.
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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I'm sorry, I did assume that people were aware this was in fact a BCNM 40, which means it is capped at Lv40. I would assume that anyone playing the game for any substantial period of time would know this one by now, along with RJ. What did you assume I was talking about?
    I didn't assume anything because this is the first time hearing of Under Observation, whereas I have done Royal Jelly hundreds of times. Based upon the description I read on it it seems like something you don't have to try very hard to fail at and still has nothing to do with how you got your levels. The two things are entirely unrelated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
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    There we go.
    I'm not sure how Royal Jellys has anything to do with UO when the subject was about a gimp NIN being the cause of a potential failure. The point of a NIN having low skills was somewhat valid. Only to the point the low skills is what caused it, not abyssea, nor GoV. I was and am simply attempting to point out that it was kinda stupid you 2 seemed to make comments based on reading the post only partly and skipping over the actual BCNM in question, or how to do it. Also from my experience, UO has had better drops for me than RJ, however this is of little relevance, if you are disputing the difference between why to do certain ones, I myself always do UO with 2BLUs & 1RDM, because there is better chances for drops, or even 2 rare drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Sounds like you need a new argument. I suppose your next piece of infinite wisdom is that I throw away my seals, yeah?
    While the arguments against you are becoming increasingly retarded, the reason for that is not that you're right but because you refuse to accept the majority's opinion and call it a day. From that people conclude a lack of insight and intelligence on your part, which people would normally brush off with some sarcastic and vaguely insulting comments. However, your stubborness in this regard makes them increasingly desperate and as such they tend to lower their standards to deal with someone like you. That, sadly, leads to a lack of proper arguments and ad hominem attacks (despite some of them being justified, but still not a pretty sight).

    The only one argument people need against you is that your suggestion would be infringing on their ability to enjoy the game. Your method would ruin a big part of the game for a majority of players, and that's why it shouldn't happen. There's nothing at all you can say against that.
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