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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Since when, ever (ever, ever, ever, ever!), has it been a good idea to take advice from the opposition?
    Since you were intelligent enough to see its a losing battle and actually look at the facts your enemy presents. Most fights can be averted if people are simply smart enough to pay attention to what the other person is saying for 5 minutes then once they understand, alot of times it becomes clear, and possibly they can come to an agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Again you understand nothing, I guess Ill be a little more harsh. Everyone who wants to grind for hours which would bore the fuck out of me and everyone else fighting with you it seems should pack up their shit and move to FFXIV, you seem more welcome there. You can give everyone there the memo to get their shit and get the fuck out, FFXI is their new home. We will gladly take them, and get rid of you, because you want to take a step back, and hurt the game and majority of players. We want it how it is, or at very least not how it was, the people over at the FFXIV forums apparently agree with your point of view, why not just put you where you fit in, and leave us where we like to be!
    Okay, guess I'll stay on tone, then. Nobody's said it better than this:

    Why? Because I love video games, that’s why, and over the last couple of years I’ve become increasingly upset with the direction that the industry is taking. These days, I find myself dreading that my favorite hobby will sink so far into douchebaggery and corporate bullshit that it will cease producing the kind of games that I like altogether.

    Now, I’m not a complete moron. I know that the ’80s and ’90s weren’t some magical time where corporate greed and unscrupulous marketing didn’t exist, and we all lived in a utopia where everyone involved in video game development actually CARED about the consumer and the artistic merit of their medium…

    …but it was better than this, goddamnit.

    Soaring game budgets, DLC, “casual gaming”, cover systems, yearly installments, mergers, GameStop, Activision, motion controls, Tetsuya Nomura, “next-gen” graphics, Kotaku, “special editions”…

    …it’s all just a swirling vortex of BULLSHIT being sucked down the drain, leaving behind all traces of artistry, originality, innocence and simplicity.

    It’s not just nostalgia. I honestly have a more difficult time finding games I like these days, and that’s a problem I NEVER had until this console generation. I can’t open a gaming news site without being instantly depressed by some executive’s marketing jargon or some developer’s explanation for why his five hour, bloom-lit, brown-paletted game about a bald space marine is a fucking revolutionary masterpiece.

    So now you get to hear about it, if you want. I know you probably don’t agree with me. If the things I say offend you, or you think I’m an idiot, you don’t have to read any more than you want to…

    …but if you share my pain, and if you’ve had enough, feel free to take some time and join me in a hearty “FUCK YOU” to the rejects ruining our fun.

    Thanks.
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    Ok, like I said, heres your chance, go to FFXIV, tell everyone who disagrees with your idea of leveling, to get their shit and get over here, we will take them. Take the people who want your way with you, and go live on planet FFXIV. Then you will be able to tell your devs over there that you want your leveling methods, and we will keep what we have over here, I still see no problem with that, which your post brought up. In fact with the thing you quoted I mostly agree with on this part...
    Soaring game budgets, DLC, “casual gaming”, cover systems, yearly installments, mergers, GameStop, Activision, motion controls, Tetsuya Nomura, “next-gen” graphics, Kotaku, “special editions"
    With few exceptions everything mentioned here basically pisses me off about games, but I saw very little in this post that opposed what I said. This in fact is very much with my views, I hate the idea of overpriced games, DLC being specifically cut from games, yearly installments into games like CoD or what Final Fantasy is turning into, GameStop, Activision, Motion Control, graphical upgrades which add no more fun, only looks while costing more money on both ends, and special editions to suck more money out of consumers.

    The simple way to say it is 1 side wants 1 thing and 1 side wants the other, since we have 2 different games, why not have 1 set of people on 1, and 1 on the other, then we would be ok, or at least better off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Ok, like I said, heres your chance, go to FFXIV, tell everyone who disagrees with your idea of leveling, to get their shit and get over here, we will take them. Take the people who want your way with you, and go live on planet FFXIV. Then you will be able to tell your devs over there that you want your leveling methods, and we will keep what we have over here, I still see no problem with that, which your post brought up. In fact with the thing you quoted I mostly agree with on this part...With few exceptions everything mentioned here basically pisses me off about games, but I saw very little in this post that opposed what I said. This in fact is very much with my views, I hate the idea of overpriced games, DLC being specifically cut from games, yearly installments into games like CoD or what Final Fantasy is turning into, GameStop, Activision, Motion Control, graphical upgrades which add no more fun, only looks while costing more money on both ends, and special editions to suck more money out of consumers.

    The simple way to say it is 1 side wants 1 thing and 1 side wants the other, since we have 2 different games, why not have 1 set of people on 1, and 1 on the other, then we would be ok, or at least better off.
    Here is something you obviously and apparently do not understand about the two games: They are ONE in the SAME in DESIGN. The SAME PROBLEMS that exist THERE exist HERE.
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    Am I strange for liking DLC expansions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Here is something you obviously and apparently do not understand about the two games: They are ONE in the SAME in DESIGN. The SAME PROBLEMS that exist THERE exist HERE.
    You mean arrogant gamers with puffed up egos like you who believe they're entitled to what ever they want over the concerns of the more casual gamer?

    If so I couldn't agree more. We could do without you and the rest of you elitists and hardcores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    You mean arrogant gamers with puffed up egos like you who believe they're entitled to what ever they want over the concerns of the more casual gamer?

    If so I couldn't agree more. We could do without you and the rest of you elitists and hardcores.
    If you define hardcore as asking for challenging content, then I feel very sorry for the future generations who get by on "This is too hard, can you make it easier? No, this is too hard too, easier? Ugh, is there a 'just get me to the boss' setting?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Here is something you obviously and apparently do not understand about the two games: They are ONE in the SAME in DESIGN. The SAME PROBLEMS that exist THERE exist HERE.
    Except, they arnt, otherwise FFXI would be DEAD by now, because the problems that made FFXIV get such bad press and made it known as a terrible failure of a game, a shame to Square, would have caused this game to die in no time. Its 10 years old and its still living, FFXIV lived for less than a year before they said they were doing a 2.0 version because they fucked it up. If they are the same, and have the same problems, tell me why 1 is alive and well, getting an expansion onto itself even though it is over 10 years of age, while the other is young, but being overhauled due to flaws? Wouldn't it make more sense to bury this game now if its so problematic and flawed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    If you define hardcore as asking for challenging content, then I feel very sorry for the future generations who get by on "This is too hard, can you make it easier? No, this is too hard too, easier? Ugh, is there a 'just get me to the boss' setting?"
    There was nothing hard about killing Pugils in Qufim, worms in Qufim, Crabs in Valk, Lizards in Valk, Bats & Beetles in Garbage Shitadel, Beetles in Altepa, Colibri in Aht, Crawlers in CN, Dhalmel in Bibiki, nothing hard about this, simply took time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Again I say, demanding the product that I paid for years ago, and expected to have forever as long as I kept it is inappropriate and unreasonable?
    You've got that wrong too. You didn't pay for a game. You paid for a license, which you got. Now you're paying for a subscription, but still not a game. You're paying to be able to play SE's game. A game which will always change, otherwise no updates, bug fixes and expansions would ever be possible. And that's where the subscription comes in: if the game changes in a way you can't agree with, you can cancel it. You didn't sign a contract to play for years, but you pay each month. If in one month an update happens which you can't live with, you're free to stop paying and playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Do I need to re-quote the morphing car analogy, or is that too immature
    That analogy was flawed to begin with. First of all, you didn't have a nice car but a shitty car. Abyssea is the nice car. And secondly, SE never changed your car. The old game is still there. You can still get 5 other people and EXP the old way. So instead of morphing your char they gave you an additional shiny new speedy car. And you're getting upset that most of the players drive the shiny new speedy car, while you'd like it if everyone was stuck driving the old car with you.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

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