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    Player Shadax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka View Post
    I hope you bring the old Final Fantasy XI game back. Every sense abyssea the games turned into s$$t. Alot of older players think so as well and thats why they stoped playing the game.
    I herd a rumor that they planed on making this game out to be like World of Warcraft. IF you turn this game into another WoW clone thats it for me.

    I'm not really sure what to do about the leveling system either. Sense all the Newb's only want to do 18 man partys doing grounds of valor so when they do get high enough to do other stuff they have no idea what they are doing. There still quite of few of us who love to do the old 6 man party sets up but its more defacult now then it use to be even tho I'm still able to do it with enough shouting in town to find people to join. I've notice they put a cap on lower level pages in abyssea zone for lower level's, Maybe put a 1 game day limit on page's in grounds of valor would stop those 18 man party's and maybe not.

    And on a side note would be nice to get male mithria adding to this game and battle choco's just my 2 cents hope you read it.

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    As a person that has played this game since one month after the ps2 version in NA was launch, I'm sorry you feel that way, because if you have ever played any of the hundreds mmos that came out since ff11 you will notice all the other mmos have fixed all the stuff that many the 2.5mil users back when the ps2 version of ff11 launch complained about.

    Abyssea started to fixed all that stuff, then they stopped and went back to the old way and that's why people are leaving the game, yes there is small hardcore base that will never leave and are mad, because square should have done some kick ass stuff for that 5 % of elitegroup of players and they didn't.

    Only thing even keeping this game alive is because newbies can actually do some of the amazing cutscene and other stuff because they can lv faster since that 5% will not like to be bothered anymore.

    I once remember when i mule a dozen of the servers after the COP failure , I would do a world search and only be 350 maxed people on during NA times, and then aht urghan brought it up to around avg of 3k people then the xbox version got it back to around 4.5k to 5k people every 24 hrs, abyssea was 5k to 6k for yr, now down to 2k avg with merge servers and the last yrs after the abyssea content sucked, and went back to the old ways no balance or real leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka View Post
    No most ppl just like the idea of going AFK for hours and getting free exp. It wasnt always hard to get partys going. Depending on the time of day. Sometimes i could have a complet party set up in 5 mins or less.

    You can do this in any party or group IF, the group allows it. I don't want to go back to the system where you search for a party an hour then get to a camp and someone has to, go followed by looking for members again, only to disband..

    DON'T WASTE OUR TIME!

    What your looking for is an inactivity monitor. Unfortunately, all someone would need to do is caste dia,cure on a mob or swat one every 5 min to remain active.
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    Player Sarick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyi View Post
    There's no dislike button...
    Yes so everyone who dislikes the other persons post can like this Meyi's post.

    If you dislike the OP's post click like on Meyi's 3rd post as a vote against the OP's post.


    Next time you see a horrible IDEA post this..

    There's no dislike button! Click like on my post to vote dislike for original posters idea.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-02-2012 at 10:16 PM.
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    Well... The game is in it's current state, because simply there's no longer enough people on the same level range to allow for the original "form party, party hard, disband and look for party again". It's why back in 2006/7 people would spend three to four hours (depending on job) or not get a party at all.

    Things like level sync and Abbyssea came to solve a serious playability issue the game had. Most people are now on the cap level and want to gear up their high level jobs.

    So they have no drive to level other jobs. This is the problem. It's not the game.

    In a MMORPG it's the desires of the population along with the goals and path set by the developer which define where the game goes to. If the developers did not implement the changes to:

    make stuff soloable
    increase level ranges for partying
    making alternative level up possibilities

    this game would be dead by now.

    Leech mode probably came to be from what the devs seen with players doing SMN burn parties.

    Now, there's very good arguments on this thread. I'm just trying to add to it.
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    Im completely against everything in the OP.

    I am however in favor of SE adding a new "Old School" or "Vanilla" server, where the level cap is 75 and everyone on it has to start from scratch, and it has all content up to Abyssea and the first level cap increase. Someone should make a new thread about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I've got an answer for you. When this game was released, and up until Abyssea, there was a fanbase of, I don't know specifically, but a much greater percentage than those that remain today. Abyssea ripped much of what we knew the game to be right out of the hands of those who were actually enjoying themselves, believe it or not; Those who didn't mind putting a little effort behind their mid-game simply for the sake of the feeling of accomplishment, if anything else.

    There's a few concepts that you, and many of those who support your argument, simply don't seem to understand. One of those is the illusion of choice. Because of the ratio in number of folks who prefer, (and I use that term loosely, point), the greased rail to endgame and the small remaining minority, those of the latter group are forced to either conform to the norm, go solo, or find another game. And even going solo provides only a percentage of the challenge that used to exist in the game, as it's far more productive to spam pages of EP mobs.

    Another concept is that this game is an RPG, and RPG's, since the beginning of RPG time, have had content to experience and enjoy at all levels of progression. There's always been a story, a journey, a gradual curve of character growth in ability. With this system, do you have any of that? Are you sure it's an RPG you want to be playing?

    The real problem I have, for one, is SE took the game and flipped it on its head for no apparent reason other than to garner a new playerbase, which is fine, except they did it while giving out a big "fuck you" to the rest of us. The "rest of us" being those who played the game because we liked what it had to offer.
    Funny, apparently you never leveled beast, blm, sum, pup, thf etc. before the addition of abyssea. As a matter of fact, I suspect that you didn't level much back then, because if you did, you wouldn't be worried about this now. You would be finished leveling everything.

    Your argument counters itself in that: There are not enough people who want what you want. If there were, you would be playing with them, not complaining about how they don't exist, so SE should make them for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyi View Post
    If you like the pain and suffering of the old game then go for it. Nobody's stopping you. There are plenty of people on these forums bitching the way you do, so consider playing with them. Seriously. Don't drag everyone down into your pity party because many of us actually enjoy the tracks the game is on now. It's fun. It's a game. I like the fact that Square Enix has reminded us it's a game, not a lifestyle and not a job. It used to be a lifestyle and a job. Now it's a game. And for that I thank them whoreheartedly.
    Yes, they are, in fact. If you want proof, just go ahead and do a /sea all XX-XX inv and send tells to everyone in that list and count the number of "lol" and "No thanks." you get in reply for a classic party. You may say it's because that old way was more like a job, but if you ask me, it sure beats the hell out of AFKing to progress. No, I challenge the idea that it's more like a game now than it used to be; Once upon a time, we embraced the difficulties and looked at them as challenges to be accepted and overcome. We did that, or we got so angry that we threw the controller at the screen and hastily shut the game down and probably never turned it back on. That's what a reasonable person does when they accept defeat at something they're just no good at or can't be bothered with. FFXI was not the first game to do this, and I hope to god it won't be the last, but I fear that may very well be the case.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    The fact you seem to think that "afk to exp" is the only way there is just shows that you have no clue what you're talking about.

    It's entirely possible to get a party outside of abyssea, and still get 100k+/hr even with average everyday people, no 99 PLs involved.
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