ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Kiba]

/waves at Camate again
plz look at this thread (^ ^ ; )/

[Unctgtg]

/waves at Camate again
plz look at this thread (^ ^ ; )/

bump for the sake of Camate seeing it again

[Rambus]

Who is Camate?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Who is Camate?

One of the MODs.

[Taint]

Screw the WS damage the ODD is what really makes Emps >>>> then relics. Anyone that says the Relic WS kill trials are easier then any 90 emp is on crack. Killing 8k+ mobs at 60/hr is borderline tortore, yes the mobs are easy but the task was gruling, mind numbing and tedious. I pumped out a 90 Emp 30ish hours if that and for the most part it was fun.

[Kiba]

bump for the sake of Camate seeing it again

yeah he was browsing forums for 4 hours this afternoon, was hoping to catch his attention. oh well ^^;

[Rambus]

The ODD on emps applying on all hits? is this correct? like it can proc on all 7 barrage arrows? or all rounds of H2H attack and kick attack? that part is OP yes but emp still deserve aftereffect.

Is Camate the person that posted on gym fourm? I do like they took interest in that but I really think this thread/issue is very big esp with older players

[Insaniac]

I have a Mandau which is still pretty competitive. There are relics however that got completely destroyed. Kikoku Spharai and Bravura are probably the most outclassed. So much so that the WoE version with just the Empyrean WS will out parse them. Relics should be competitive. They don't need to be hands down the best available but they should at least be in the running.

Mythics have always been about utility. Put things like "Enhances Refresh" on the rdm sword and put Meteor on the BLM staff. Add more damage enhancements to the DD weapons. THF and DRG are the only DD mythics I can think of that aren't 100% pointless.

ALMOST everyone who has a relic or mythic put months of time into it in one way or another. Just cause you can spend 90-200mil and buy one of these in a few days doesn't mean you didn't work your ass off for that gil. Relic and Mythics should be on equal standing with Empyreans. That way the masses can be appeased and those of us who put in the foot work can still be happy with the effort we put forth and not feel like it was wasted time.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If you off hand a relic, do you still get the WS?

[Futan]

No, Tsukino. You only get the DMG/Delay from it(not the Attack or WS).