Why Mythic making shouldn't get hit with the nerf bat.

[Dieth]

I'm not asking for a nerf, but I think these few things could help.

1. Increase the Alex supply:
   1. Original Boss Chariots, make their pouch 100%
   2. Increase the amount of alex obtained from cotton pouches.
   3. NeoSalvage Boss Chariots on every floor, or floors entirely full of triple gears that drop 1-4 alex, or floors entirely full of boss chariots.
   4. Every piece of Archaic Machinery in Salvage changed to always drop 1 alex, and up to 4 max
2. Remove Assault/Salvage minimum entry limit of 3 characters.

[DaBackpack]

People have already touched on the main problem with the mythic process. It really IS the supply.

Since so many people want a mythic now, alexandrites are so hard to find nowadays that hardly ANYBODY can even find enough to make a mythic. I've wanted Ryunohige for a long time and I'm having trouble even finding these gems. Since Abyssea first came out two years ago, I doubt I've even SEEN 10,000 alexandrites in all the bazaars I've checked, lot alone 30,000.

Edit: And to those that say "Salvage it all the way":

If you can get 150 gems, if you evenly distribute it amongst three people, that's 50 each. That's 600 straight days of doing Salvage if you're lucky. Not to mention the other requirements (which really pale in comparison, but are not trivial).

[Myo]

I don't know what server you guys are on, but on Quetz there are a ton of people who do salvage and sell the alex just for money puposes. I finished my mythic in the last 6 months, didn't have a supply problem. They aren't in the bazaar of every tom, dick and harry, like dynamis currency. But they're there.

[Demon6324236]

I don't know what server you guys are on, but on Quetz there are a ton of people who do salvage and sell the alex just for money puposes. I finished my mythic in the last 6 months, didn't have a supply problem. They aren't in the bazaar of every tom, dick and harry, like dynamis currency. But they're there.

Well on Phoenix we have 3 common names I see shouting to buy them every day for 20k, from what I have seen and heard, the supply is a problem where money is not, 1 of the people even started trading people a marrow for about half its worth in Alexs to get people to do Salvage and increase supply of them.

[Xantavia]

Quote Originally Posted by Myo View Post
I have a mythic through the system in place, please don't nerf it because i'll have wasted over half a year of my life for nothing.

sorry, that's all i could read.

I don't know what server you guys are on, but on Quetz there are a ton of people who do salvage and sell the alex just for money puposes. I finished my mythic in the last 6 months, didn't have a supply problem. They aren't in the bazaar of every tom, dick and harry, like dynamis currency. But they're there.

Zerich, I think you called it there.

[Mittenz]

While I agree with the OP to some extent I dont feel mythic obtainment is at its current pace acceptable. Even though I will probably finish my mythic before any sort of change comes out (looking at finishing in the next 3-5 weeks depending on luck) I am in full support of minor changes to how alexandrites come into the game. Boss pouches being made 100% or simply allowing more people to solo salvage are great ideas that wont break the game but should increase supply enough to at least keep a mythic popping up here and there every month instead of 1 mythic per server popping up every time the planets align. I think if the supply is doubled it wont ruin the current prices for farmings but will make it so more people can actually have the alexandrites to purchase (because lolgil these days).

As for the other requirements... get over it. they are easy assaults can be done with 3 EASILY and I am talking 3 pearl bsts throwing dippers at crap. ein is easy and odin can be spammed so that it takes 1/2 the time it used to to get the ichor and the nyzul tokens are a joke too considering with 3 competent players you can do 15 floor hops (I do 10 2 boxing and dcing a 3rd character at entry) so grab 2 others wanting to do mythics do 15-25 floor hops for 6-10k tokens a run. These requirements should be laughed at yes there is tag requirements but really if you were taking mythic seriously for years you would have already cleared the assaults (I did mine back at 75 long after everyone wanted to do captain) and for the new people coming in 100 tags is annoying but its going to take time bare with it and you will push through while clearing the rest of the stuff.

[Demon6324236]

My problem with Mythic that I have is supply/demand and the number of Alexs in general required. Due to short supply prices are upto 20k each on my server, 600Mil for a weapon. The number of Alexs seems to high imo due to the other work around it. I am not saying the work is to hard or to much, but simply that with everything else you must do for a weapon I would think you should need less of the currency type for a weapon than for one of those which require no prerequisites.

Relic is alot of non-R/EX items(Roughly 18,000) able to be traded & bazaared, and some wait times.

Emp is a few camped lottery spawn NMs, a few VNMs, and R/EX items(100 for form with WS/Aftermath) where 1 of which will always drop on a kill of the NM which drops it.

Mythic you must obtain the rank of Captain, complete Nyzul Isle, kill each of the 3 Beastkings, kill the 4 bosses of Salvage, kill Odin in Einherjar, obtain 100,000 Therion Ichor, 150,000 Tokens, record a win for every assault, obtain 30,000 Alexandrite, non-R/EX items, able to be traded & bazaared. 1 item from each of the T3 ZNMs, and finally you must win a fight involving you using the weapon skill for the weapon and unlocking its aftermath.

I think it is safe to say so far as what is needed (especially when the average player market prices for Alex are about 3 times that of the price of Ancient Currency) that Mythic is by far the most time taking, and difficult, of the 3, and is far unbalanced as such.

Edit:To clarify, I am not saying I want the prereqs removed, quite the opposite, I like them, they make Mythic obtaining unique. The amount of "currency" however seems much to high due to the fact of how much work there is besides that single part, especially when weapons with much less work involved in the background also require less currency & are also less expensive on the market to buy.

[Winrie]

Mythics have been out for how many years now and people are just now complaining lol?

Regardless I feel the ONLY thing that needs to be changed about mythic obtainment is the alex supply, the requirements themselves don't need to be changed, I'm a firm believer an increase in alex massively will fix the complaints,(an aht urghan style instance dyna like thing that dropped alex would be sexy..@30,000 alex needed per weapon this wouldn't be a bad idea...) the other reqs make the need to do einherjar and nyzul and assaults ect which are fun to do as well.

[Demon6324236]

Mythics have been out for how many years now and people are just now complaining lol?

People have been a long time I think.

Regardless I feel the ONLY thing that needs to be changed about mythic obtainment is the alex supply, the requirements themselves don't need to be changed, I'm a firm believer an increase in alex massively will fix the complaints,(an aht urghan style instance dyna like thing that dropped alex would be sexy..@30,000 alex needed per weapon this wouldn't be a bad idea...) the other reqs make the need to do einherjar and nyzul and assaults ect which are fun to do as well.

I agree something like this would be nice, any increase in supply would be, the problem is though when you think about it, the supply depends on the popularity of events they come from. NNI drops few, Salvage is old, and with how events have been popping up dead on arrival as of late, Neo-Salvage does not seem to have much of a chance...

[Alistaire]

Nowhere in any of the offical posts from any SE employee or representative was it ever stated that Relic, Emp, and Mythic weapons were designed to be evenly difficult to obtain.

You don't want to go with that argument. The official posts from SE were all about mythics being the easier of the 2 (of course, empyrean wasn't out then) to obtain.

But even before the dynamis change it wasn't even close to being true.