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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you have are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.
    The bonanza always had more than one tier I winner. 2011 had 39 winners. 2010 had 58 winners. What I'm trying to say is, could you guarantee at least 5-10 winners? Maybe it's asking too much. :/

    I have a feeling there will be more than one JP player getting the lvl99 afterglow relic/emp/mythic compared to one of us only getting a lvl90 relic/emp/mythic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrua View Post
    The bonanza always had more than one tier I winner. 2011 had 29 winners. 2010 had 39 winners. What I'm trying to say is, could you guarantee at least 5-10 winners? Maybe it's asking too much. :/

    I have a feeling there will be more than one JP player getting the lvl99 afterglow relic/emp/mythic compared to one of us only getting a lvl90 relic/emp/mythic.
    You can't compare normal Mog bonanza like from 2011 to Nomad Mog Bonanza which they had in 2010. Because in Nomad Mog Bonanza you get 1 entry number for your whole account. In the 2011 one you got 10 entry per character so there were so many more entries.

    The Nomad Mog Bonanza 2012 for Japan they get 1 entry per account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrua View Post
    The bonanza always had more than one tier I winner. 2011 had 29 winners. 2010 had 39 winners. What I'm trying to say is, could you guarantee at least 5-10 winners? Maybe it's asking too much. :/

    I have a feeling there will be more than one JP player getting the lvl99 afterglow relic/emp/mythic compared to one of us only getting a lvl90 relic/emp/mythic.
    it's not a bonanza where you can buy up to 10 marble per char.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you have are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/eve...ex.html?page=2
    Application Restrictions
    - Only one Nomad Mog Bonanza application can be made per Square Enix account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you have are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.
    Mog Bonanzas have historically had 40+ rank 1 winners. Even if there is only 1 chance instead of the historical 10, there are much greater odds of more NMB Rank 1 winners than the single GGG Rank 1 winner. So why is it that the more numerous NMB Rank 1 prize is 99/Afterglow while the single GGG Rank 1 prize is 90?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiuchus
    On top of JP getting an actual mog bonanza of which I don't really mind, probably the statistical chances of winning each tier are about the same, but I would have preferred to have a bonanza myself. The NA/EU tier 1 can get you a chance at a 90 relic/mythic/emp. WHILE the JP bonanza tier 1 gives a chance at a 99 afterglow ver of a relic/mythic/emp.... Not that I would win either or but come on SE............

    http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event...012/index.html
    The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.
    Bayohne, I think most of the concern is that the Japanese attendees of vanafest are getting "a chance" at the level 99 afterglow version, while no one else has been given that kind of opportunity before.

    Yes the two events are different, but keep in mind that the event is restricted as well. Even if we wanted to we could not fly over there to attend the event, as we wouldn't be allowed to enter.

    So when will other regions get a chance at level 99 afterglow weapons? This, I think, is the concern most people are having with the event. SE insisted on creating these weapons with such out of reach requirements obviously to give the weapon away at special events just like this. Will Japanese players be the only ones who ever get a chance at one of these fully upgraded weapons or will there be other opportunities in the future for other regions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway is the alternative event for NA and EU users that are unable to participate in the Nomad Mog Bonanza. There isn't a Japanese version of the GGG, as they have the Nomad Mog Bonanza.
    I see. I was thinking that the GGG would be the permanent replacement for the large-scale Mog Bonanza we're all used to having every so often. Instead it's just our version of the Vanafest event. Thanks for the clarification.

    Our goal is to give the orb out to as many players as possible in the future, and this giveaway is only the beginning of that. As for the "guaranteed rank 5 prize", as I said in a previous reply, this isn't a replacement for Mog Bonanza, and does not function the same way (users can purchase marbles with different digits to try and guarantee a rank 5 prize). In the future, we'll be evaluating how to give away the fun things that have been included in Bonanzas throughout the years (statues, event battlefields, etc.)
    I understand, and I look forward to these future methods. I would ask of the devs and whoever else is involved that whatever processes are created should be simple, elegant, and fair. Things do tend to get a bit convoluted and confusing around here sometimes as you can see.


    You're not shouting in the wind - we're here. Hopefully my explanation above can give some insight into the thought process, but like I said, we'll be continuing to look for ways to get content like the Heroines' Holdfast out to many players.
    My shouting in the wind comment wasn't directed at the reps. You're not the ones I take issue with. I'll just leave it at that.
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    I don't see why the rank 1 prize can't at least be a 99 weapon. Those aren't impossible to get, there are lots of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoraeon View Post
    Mog Bonanzas have historically had 40+ rank 1 winners. Even if there is only 1 chance instead of the historical 10, there are much greater odds of more NMB Rank 1 winners than the single GGG Rank 1 winner. So why is it that the more numerous NMB Rank 1 prize is 99/Afterglow while the single GGG Rank 1 prize is 90?
    I was thinking it should be 1 rank 1 winner per server at least, but I am still more concerned about rank 2 not having cat's eye, as it's much more likely to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    However the US and EU players get to log in take a survey and get placed in a random drawing. We don't pick numbers. If not enough people enter which could be the case since there are a lot of FFXI players who don't read the SE site or forums then everyone could be a winner of some sort of prize.

    Most likely the number of prizes allocated to US and EU players were based on the number of accounts in each region.

    It might be easier for us to win a prize (if not many people enter) then the JP players. But people who attend Vanafest get the Mog Suit 100% so not like they getting nothing.
    One side has an incredible advantage. Doesn't matter how you reply the facts are there in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.
    It makes sense!
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