[SUGGESTION] Move the Dancer JA "Chocobo Jig" to level 49.

[scaevola]

Oh my goodness I can't even read this insanity anymore. This is my last reply because at this point, we're really just feeding a troll.


No. Just no. Abyssea warps, VW warps, outpost warps, items that teleport you directly to certain places (jeuno, nashmau, etc). Running around is now less than a fraction of the game. Before people had to use chocobos and teleports to get around. Nowadays, I can't remember having to run anywhere other than to the warp guy and maybe a minute in the zone.



Congrats. It wasn't because of movement speed. Provoke and other claiming abilities activate at the same speed whether you're wearing movement speed gear or not. If movement speed = better claiming, I think I would be okay with that. But it really depends on: Who has the faster internet (i.e. no server delay), who can spam a macro/JA faster, and whether you're competing against someone with third party tools. I guarantee tons of other people "supported" themselves by selling Empy drops (I ran an effing Empy LS for 8 months) and it sure as hell wasn't because we had a DNC run around the zone with movement speed on. It was because we had people stand still and look out for mob pops.

Edit:
Lol thank you, Sotek. I was typing my long post when you posted this, and it just further proves the point. We were thinking the same thing.



People do play DNC. There's tons of them. And I bet if I asked every single main DNC, about 90% would say it had absolutely nothing to do with chocobo jig. Just playing a job based on one job ability that is irrelevant to actual combat is beyond idiotic. If you're willing to toss aside your main job just because chocobo jig would be useable on other jobs, then you're probably playing it for the wrong reasons. Hell, there are RDMs who still love RDM even though practically all of their job defining abilities were given to other jobs, and you're sitting here saying that DNC would be less playable if everyone got chocobo jig.



I don't know why in the world you or whoever you're camping NMs with is running down claims, but it makes a helluv a lot more sense to stand still in the spawn area and look around. Hell, even if it does spawn on the opposite end of the pop area, the time it would take to put on Chocobo jig with any competition around you means that you just lost the claim.



I think myself and everyone else who has opened this thread would agree that you're the one who should take your own advice. Just... don't make your own threads.



First of all "Loathe as I am"? Really? Secondly, everything you say is ridiculous, so we honestly can't tell when you're joking. We think you're serious and crazy all the time.

And, there is no real suggestion in this thread. I would have had absolutely no problem with this thread had you opened it and actually stated reasons to reduce chocobo jig to lv 49. Hell, I think it's a good idea. But, because of your ludicrousness, no one here can take you seriously. I might go make my own "Move Chocobo Jig to 49" threas, but open it with real facts and reasons to do so, rather than my own opinion. (Especially if it's wrong).

If you've ever read a thread with people who post that "gear swapping is bad", it turns into the same thing. Everyone ignores the OP's proposal- in this case, lowering chocobo jig- and simply laughs at the ridiculousness of some players. It is happening here. So I ask you... for the love of Altana:
please
please
please
Do not reply any more. You are making yourself look bad and insulting the intelligence of everyone else here.

"lol" is not enough characters


EDIT:

BUT

Congrats. It wasn't because of movement speed. Provoke and other claiming abilities activate at the same speed whether you're wearing movement speed gear or not. If movement speed = better claiming, I think I would be okay with that. But it really depends on: Who has the faster internet (i.e. no server delay), who can spam a macro/JA faster, and whether you're competing against someone with third party tools. I guarantee tons of other people "supported" themselves by selling Empy drops (I ran an effing Empy LS for 8 months) and it sure as hell wasn't because we had a DNC run around the zone with movement speed on. It was because we had people stand still and look out for mob pops.

cool story tell me more about how you needed 8 people to do what I did alone

(also if only DNC and /DNC got a Provoke to claim as like, our first freaking flourish)

[Kalilla]

So you play DNC just because it can walk around faster? lol

Is that so wrong? ._.

[DaBackpack]

Wow, some of you guys need to calm the heck down. The guy's not trolling: I think it's a good suggestion (and I've read this whole thread, additionally).

I too will do a soloable task on DNC just because we move faster.
Do I need a heavy DD to farm Southern Pearls?
No, that mob is LOL, and to be honest the time that's cut in transit is less time that someone else can claim the mob before I get there.

When I'm doing petty things, or even things where the circumstances allow flexibility, sure, I prefer to come on Dancer for this sole reason.

Would I come DNC for Voidwatch? No, I wouldn't.
Would I come DNC for watching cutscenes or killing easy monsters? You bet your rear end I would.
For those that don't have DNC at 99, I think having Chocobo Jig at 49 would be beneficial (it's less versatile on a mage job, but hey you don't have to use it then). There is still a lot of stuff to that requires walking... and walking... and even if I get to a certain place a bit faster than the rest of my group, it's time that I can relax for a bit. If I'm not endangering the party by being on Dancer, I don't see why it's a big deal.

[Eric]

I used DNC + tandava crackows to clear a bunch of my missions, and it saved me a ton of time, but to be honest, movement speed+ won't save you nearly as much time in other(read: regular) circumstances.

[Jamesy]

I am a DNC main, less by choice than by the fact that, as my sig suggests, Chocobo Jig + Tandava Crackows have made pretty much every other job in the game totally intolerable.

This would be a huge QoL benefit to everybody and /DNC is not strong enough in any meaningful situation to cause a balance issue except maybe in Nyzul, which to be honest could probably use it.

no just no. this post is like asking the dev team remove the timer on flee effect on thief and make it a full time effect its unnecessary and ridiculous.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

no just no. this post is like asking the dev team remove the timer on flee effect on thief and make it a full time effect its unnecessary and ridiculous.

not really, not even close.

[Jamesy]

not really, not even close.

really because it is quite ridiculous and a request that's somewhat obnoxious if you wan a better analogy then here its like asking square enix to lower the level of Chocobo Mazurka to 49 because you don't want to use raptor mazurka anymore on /brd its honestly the biggest LMAO of a request that i have seen on these forums

[scaevola]

man never thought this would be the one to get the psychos out

[Savlyn]

The reason it seems like its you against everyone else in this thread is because you are. You are plain wrong and idiotic with everything you post, and the "psychos" are the players who realize that you are, and are calling you out on it. Make real points about your "suggestion" rather than absurd statements about the game and maybe more people would take you seriously and not jump down your throat.

And really? "lol" is the best response you can come up with to my post that destroyed your argument? No wonder this is a joke thread.

[scaevola]

Until Jamesy showed up and spilled out some semi-literate crazy, it was just you and Sotek typing up novels. Pretty much everyone else has been like "hey that's cool" or "eh, not really a big deal" in a sentence or two. I'm not really sure what exactly it is you're trying to do here, all running up and flailing your arms around like silverback gorilla, but by all means continue thinking you're fighting the good fight, I guess.

Also, if you could give me some bullet points on how you "destroyed my argument" that would be helpful because there's no way I'm reading all that. I might even be inclined to give those an adequate response; I'm not spending twenty minutes typing up detailed rebuttals to somebody who leveled DNC to 90 and yet apparently doesn't realize that Animated Flourish is a Provoke. I did, however, see you typed "for the love of Altana" at the end, which is FFXI Playerese for "please shove me in a locker", so that was helpful.