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Thread: Dynamis - Mad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I hope this is satire. If it is, it's brilliant, it's a little dark selecting something from the repertoire of Hermann Göring...

    If it's not satire, I am a little disturbed as it's something right out of Hermann Göring's repertoire...
    damn, I've been made. I was trying to find "the eternal steam engine" on youtube (great piece of music by the way) but it kept auto completing to something else after "the eternal" part so after about the 10th time I checked it out, turned out to be some early 40's looking german film, I never looked at a beastmaster the same way after that.
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    I like how, after almost 1 1/2 years of lackluster updates, the community has gone back to trolling and flaming each other to hell. Party like it's 2006 all over again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castoth View Post
    I like how, after almost 1 1/2 years of lackluster updates, the community has gone back to trolling and flaming each other to hell. Party like it's 2006 all over again!
    "balance" is what they're calling it these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Who says? A decent BST can deal damage comparable to their pet. Your argument depends on the assumption that pulling time after a mob is dead is wasted, but pulling time while the mob is alive is not. And it does not change the fact that after a while you'd have to move camp anyway or your pulls would be getting ridiculously long.
    I must admit I don't play BST, and I don't really know anyone who plays BST, so I don't know much about their damage potential. But I certainly do know a lot about efficiency. The BST --must-- make next pull. He --must-- spend that time between each kill. Whether he leaves before or after his current mob is dead does not affect the amount of efficiency loss he sustains by not currently having something to attack. If his pet is attacking nothing while he pulls, he's doubling his damage loss during the pull phase. I'm trying to think of a way to word this more clearly.

    When I said the pet is the DD, I did not mean to imply that pets always do more damage than BSTs (however, with the burden of pulling and proccing on the BST, it is quite likely that they DO outdamage the BST). I meant that the only thing the pet contributes is damage, and if it is not damaging anything, it is wasting efficiency. The BSTs duties are pulling, proccing, and dealing damage. As long as they are spending time on any one of those activities, they are not wasting any efficiency because that's something they'd have to do either way. So both BST and pet maximize their efficiency if the BST leaves to pull early so he can begin his proccing duties sooner and so the pet will immediately have a new target as soon as the old one dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yinnyth View Post
    Whether he leaves before or after his current mob is dead does not affect the amount of efficiency loss he sustains by not currently having something to attack. If his pet is attacking nothing while he pulls, he's doubling his damage loss during the pull phase. I'm trying to think of a way to word this more clearly.
    You don't need to, I understand what you mean, I'm just disagreeing. Case 1: BST pulls, has to run to mob and back; case 2: both pull after mob is dead, only have to run to the mob, hence shortened pull time and moved camps slightly (not as noticeable in Xarc or cities, but in dreamlands, where the camps are larger and you can roam around within them it does contribute).

    And BST and pet damage are still comparable, I was including Dynamis playstyle. Otherwise any good BST would out damage their pet by a noticeable margin.
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    I just read the first page was enough by me ... all bst know yellow is yellow but there is some dds who will stop at you wait for the stagger before steal your mob (happened before with me i never pull a whole zone i do one mob at time but sometimes we get aggro ) , and for the person who say we will probally want to marry our pets personally i find my pets a better company them lot of the Pcs of my server.
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    *If ANYONE has multiple (yellow) mobs and theres another 10 up wandering, i dont care and go about my business.

    *If ANYONE has multiple (yellow) mobs and theres another 0 up wandering, i take your yellow crap. Period.

    *If ANYONE has multiple (yellow) mobs and theres another 0 up wandering, I took your yellow crap and you start whining/moaning/bitching/complaining about it, I will AGGRESSIVELY take more of your yellow mobs to teach you a lesson about entitlement and for being a whiny bitch. (and it prevents me from falling asleep in grindy dynamis :P)

    That my friends are the rules I play by for my runs up to 350 currency and ~30 forgotten items
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    omggggg, NO ONE CARES ABOUT BST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    That my friends are the rules I play by for my runs up to 350 currency and ~30 forgotten items
    350 on thf? either you are duo or i call bs. 260 is my best on bst solo in one run.
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    I love the fact that these threads are daily. It's borderline game racism. I'm the one in dyna who see's someone with half health and if i have tp ill waltz them, which later on i get a waltz back and a respect is born from it. I don't take people's mobs unless they have 3+ with 0 pops in area, at which point the said bst made it his personal goal whenever i had 2 mobs total, he'd come over and swipe one with plenty in area, which doesn't bother me one bit. Then proceeded to tell me to fuck off, suck his dick, among other things. A GM was called and I didn't get a response from a GM until 8+ hours later.

    Saying all bst are scum is like saying all puerto ricans don't have jobs, all asian people can fix things, all black people like grape soda and fried chicken, and whites have round eyes (don't make fun of whites, its not in the rules). Say what you will, they are stereotypes, just like bst is an outcast loner who makes it their sole mission to fuck up your day. You can feel better about saying those things, but at the end of the day, the smarter person thinks them and it's left unsaid. Not saying your wrong, i know i dont fit your bst description, but you'd look a lot smarter not saying it in the first place.

    You don't call a guy who sits at home and collects a welfare check and deals drugs a n*gger to his face do you? Didn't think so.
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