99 Empyrean Trials.

[DrStrangelove]

DSL point is this content either has no effect on you or you do have a 90+ character and are too scared to take ownership of your opinion.

You have funny posts.

First, I have both a relic and an empyrean, unlike you who has 1 empy (and no relic or mythic) and the OP who has 3 empys (and no relic or mythic). !!

So, of the 3 of us, my opinion, is far more valid.

Second, good luck with the name-calling when people don't agree with you. How's that working out for you?

Third....and here is the kicker.

SE isn't going to make the empys easier. This whole thread simply reinforces the impression the developers have of many empy owners.

They want great weapons with no cost and no work.

Players posted in BG, ALLA, FFXIAH, FFXIONLINE and sent emails to SE asking for great weapons for no cost with hard quests.

That's what they gave you.

They're not going to make ultimate weapons that can be soloed to 90 in 9 days, then upgraded to 99 for 30 million gil on day 10.

[newmonkey]

Ok seen as what has been said regarding Bravura is it safe to assume Bravura should be ahead of most other empys then apart from Ukon and say maybe Massa ?

Sorry for posting this here but with the Bravura discussion here i didn't want to create a whole new thread.

[Neisan_Quetz]

When could level 1 chars enter abyssea?

Ok seen as what has been said regarding Bravura is it safe to assume Bravura should be ahead of most other empys then apart from Ukon and say maybe Massa ?

Sorry for posting this here but with the Bravura discussion here i didn't want to create a whole new thread.

At the very least Brovura is still most likely in the Top 3 GAs for War atm, I wouldn't consider Maschu worth it outside without ODD. Aside from the 5 I listed I can't think of other situations where emps far surpass relics, and in some are blatantly worse, such as Rhongo vs Gungnir, Redemption vs Apocalypse and Farsha vs Guttler (for Bst, unless you make farsha solely for brewing).

[Erics]

People not only have done these in 8 to 9 days, they've done them often. Why are you even arguing the point? Do you think the developers don't know how easy preezy these weapons are?

Facts: 16,000 empyreans.

EASY PREEZY. These are being soloed and duoed up to 90 for ZERO cost in days.

Now you want the ultimate weapons soloed and duoed to 99 in days.

Get off it.

Do some work and earn the weapon...or settle for a very easy to get, very excellent level 90 weapon.

People have done the 95's. It's not that hard. Stop the crying.

Define your meaning of days for solo and duo. Because I can tell you right now, I had 4 people and it still took two days JUST for 75 horns. So get off your false facts about what you can accomplish in days.

Which brings up another point, if you are suggesting "zero" cost as well, I also bought a "few"(My few means about 7) pop sets.. Yet it still took 2 days. With your "zero" cost method, I HIGHLY doubt it is being done in a few days solo and duo, because there is ALWAYS comp. at the camp sights.

Edit: Oh! Forgot to mention, we all held a pop set and used one brew for every 4 pops. A solo/duo would take a little more time(about 30 seconds, but it adds up eventually) longer to continue buying brews for their 1 to 2 pops. The solo/duo MIGHT even need to cruor farm to buy more brews.

[Tamoa]

You have funny posts.

First, I have both a relic and an empyrean, unlike you who has 1 empy (and no relic or mythic) and the OP who has 3 empys (and no relic or mythic). !!

So, of the 3 of us, my opinion, is far more valid.

Second, good luck with the name-calling when people don't agree with you. How's that working out for you?

Third....and here is the kicker.

SE isn't going to make the empys easier. This whole thread simply reinforces the impression the developers have of many empy owners.

They want great weapons with no cost and no work.

Players posted in BG, ALLA, FFXIAH, FFXIONLINE and sent emails to SE asking for great weapons for no cost with hard quests.

That's what they gave you.

You're not going to get ultimate weapons that can be soloed to 90 in 9 days, then upgraded to 99 for 30 million gil on day 10.

Bolded part no. 1: I guess you really are one of those butthurt relic owners that I mentioned in an earlier post. And having a relic means you're always right in any discussion that has anything whatsoever to do with relics, right?

Bolded part no. 2: I guess you've been told this by SE employees?

You're not going to get ultimate weapons that can be soloed to 90 in 9 days, then upgraded to 99 for 30 million gil on day 10.

You can't solo an empyrean weapon to 90 in 9 days.

[Erics]

Already beat ya to it, Tamoa :P! Just in my own words! :P!

[Tamoa]

Already beat ya to it, Tamoa :P! Just in my own words! :P!

I saw lol - you posted as I was typing :P

But yeah, I want too see someone solo 50 Chloris buds, 50 Ulhuadshi fangs and 75 Dragua scales in 9 days. Or 50 Glavoid shells, 50 Izpapalotl scales and 75 Orthus claws. And so on and so forth. In NINE days. Yeah, not happening. Maybe if you don't sleep, don't have anything else that requires your attention in rl, have millions of cruor for brewing and lots of gil for pop items.

[Nynja]

1 sissyphus per 15 min (and thats being nice presuming it pops every 10 min after death and you're claiming them all, at approx 80% drop rate (no its not 100%, but it was severly adjusted from the previous 2%). Going to need roughly 50 apad pops (50% drop rate on double horn), so you're looking at roughly 60 sissy kills. We'll give the benefit of the doubt that you can farm up a snowgod core between sissy pops with the same 80% drop rate, so I wont factor in time on that. HQ Marid hide is negligible since you will probably cleave the pops down, but that will take time. I'll give it a rough hour to get all the marid hides, and thats once again being nice. Estimated time atm: (60x15 min) + 60 min = 960 min

Dhorme Khim will take about 5 minutes per between 1 min ??? repop, and can fluctuate between quick and long fights if the red!! is being a doucher. Thats being nice once again, because hey, I'm a nice guy. 50x5 = 250 min

Apad will take about 10 minutes per kill, so 500 minutes. If you say you can kill it quicker, I dont care. I've been nice this entire time, so suck it.


960+250+500 minutes = 1710 minutes = 28.5 hours, presuming you're catching every pop using average drop rates.


you lose, your math fails, like your turtle. gtfo lv1 scrub.

[DrStrangelove]

Bolded part no. 1: I guess you really are one of those butthurt relic owners that I mentioned in an earlier post. And having a relic means you're always right in any discussion that has anything whatsoever to do with relics, right?

Bolded part no. 2: I guess you've been told this by SE employees?




You can't solo an empyrean weapon to 90 in 9 days.

People were soloing most parts up to 90 when the level cap was 95. If you want to imagine this is not true even more so now, then ok. Posts of people doing this is all over to find.

My guess is you aren't aware that people can brew these mobs. A brew lets you kill all the mobs that are needed to get to 90, soloooooooo, although most can be soloed without brews anyway. EASY PREEZY

Most pops sets can be obtained off the auction house, but of course, by soloing mobs with warrriors, blu mages etc. AOE spam is quite common.

[DrStrangelove]

960+250+500 minutes = 1710 minutes = 28.5 hours, presuming you're catching every pop using average drop rates.

28.5 hours...your math. 9 days EASY PREEZY. Time left for naps, meals, a swim in the pool, and a movie.