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    Player DrStrangelove's Avatar
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    I've read a lot of these threads and pretty much everyone ends up with the same things being said. It's unfortunate.

    *******There are people in the player base that want to change their race. Not just their hair color and not the looks. The whole thing.********

    Now the funniest part, the part that cracks me up the most, is that while this change would affect NO ONE but the people getting the change, there are lots of people who not only are against doing it themselves, but also against other people doing it.

    Why the heck is that? I've yet to hear that answer.

    1) The people who will get the change will pay for it themselves. Why does anyone else care?
    2) If SE can do it, it will affect no one else. Why does anyone else care?
    3) If people make the change, they will have the same stats as if they had made a different choice in the first place. Why does anyone else care?
    4) If people making the change, lose RSE gear, or RSE quests, it will affect them. Why does anyone else care?

    It's as if people said when they are at home, they'd like to have pancakes at night and burgers for breakfast. Why are there people who care? Why are there people who have an opinion at all when other people want to do something that has NO EFFECT on them?

    Ok, to get to some simple points:

    1) The first time this was aksed to SE it was in 2005 or 2006. Yup, 5-6 years ago. They did not say it could not be done. They said it would seem strange to do so they were against it. Then, in 2007 or 2008, they said it was because of RSE gear.

    Let's see. There is no part, where they said it can't be done. But let's say that due to quests or RSE gear, that there is a problem. There are already NUMEROUS quests in the game that can be erased. SE has already set that up Promathia, TOAU, ROZ, and all the artifact gear. Also, people can drop or sell their RSE gear already. ALL of this can be done.

    2) A second theory is that you just CAN'T change the character. Really. We have items in the game to change you to a bird, or a little girl, or a chocobo. We have mobs that turn us into frogs and bats. We can level sync our selves from 99 to level 5. We used to go into zones that dropped us to level 30, 40 , 50, etc. These changed our looks. These changed our stats. These changed our race. So, yes, it can be done. It not only can be done. It's being done everyday on every server.

    3) Again here is a funny almost laughable argument: "it really doesn't matter because stats have very little bearing on the game play!" Ok, so WHAT? Are you someone's dad? If it doesn't matter to you and you don't want to do it, what does that have to do with anything under the sun as far as what other people want to do?

    4) Here are the arguments people have against it:

    a) It seems odd to change races.
    b) You should have to start a new character, re-do all the quests and missions, collect all the r/ex gear.
    c) It's against the ways RPGs work.
    d) If they allow this, then people will change every week
    e) in the REAL WORLD, people can't be human one day and a zebra the next
    f) I don't want you to do that

    So, you know what?

    It seems odd to change jobs. How can you be a MNK one second and a BLM the next? That makes no sense. You want a new one? Start a new character!

    It seems odd to change allegiances. How can you belong to one town, then change and belong to another, then change to a third, then go back again? That makes no sense. You want a new town? Start a new character!

    You want to change servers? Too bad, RPGs don't work that way. You are in an MMO and you can't just up and leave.

    You want to cap some new skills? Too bad. In the REAL WORLD, people are only good at one thing, maybe 2. If you want to be good at a bow and a dagger and a great axe? Well, start a new character.

    Those of you that have a real problem with this, this really has nothing to do with you. I'm sure there will be more posts in this and other threads, but here is my suggestion: don't post.

    Write your mayor about passing a law to stop people from putting jelly on their toast. Write the government about making laws to stop people from coloring their hair, from wearing contact lenses not glasses, from buying new clothes in the spring or from changing their hobbies.
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  2. #32
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Number of people that would pay for it probably wouldn't cover the cost of implenting it.

    If you want to do this you can create a new char on the same account, level it to 30 speed level and do everything you want to do and transfer r/e equip over. It's a little more annoying but it's the same end result, just a little more work.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Number of people that would pay for it probably wouldn't cover the cost of implenting it.

    If you want to do this you can create a new char on the same account, level it to 30 speed level and do everything you want to do and transfer r/e equip over. It's a little more annoying but it's the same end result, just a little more work.
    Lol yeah, just make a new character....

    Seriously though, the code is already there, as stated above. They waste more time putting stupid moogles that give you funny hats, and pitchforks than it would take to do this. If anyone would do it at all, than it's worth the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Number of people that would pay for it probably wouldn't cover the cost of implenting it.

    If you want to do this you can create a new char on the same account, level it to 30 speed level and do everything you want to do and transfer r/e equip over. It's a little more annoying but it's the same end result, just a little more work.
    See, that's what I thought. And after *years* of being sick of my little tarutaru character (no, seriously, I needed to reflect *some* form of growing up throughout the years) i rerolled a while ago.

    Sure, leveling is no problem at all and skilling up is a little bit more work, but ultimately doable.

    But, I have found the hard way, that the insane amount of things that I have to get done again, is overbearing. Im sticking with it. But stuff like Dynamis wins (and gear that still is important and non-dboxable like assassin's armlets), CoP, Fame, ROTZ, ToAU, WotG, the endless *individual* quests i've done on my character, inventory space (some items are pretty hard to come by, even when you have the gil to buy them, simply not on the AH), all the scenarios, Campaign Medals, non d-boxable furniture in your mog house (my mog house is full of stuff), Kindred Seals, Beastmen Seals, Imperial Standing...

    Norg Fame, Utsusemi: Ni, every Blm spell I already had, every whm spell, avatars... It is a lot.

    The *real* killing blow, though, is most people cannot understand the fact that you feel so strongly about this that you would reroll. "Seriously man?" is what I get all the time. And so, unless you have your own personal crew that are willing to help out with the major stepping stones in the life of your character, some of which most people are pretty sick of doing, it really is *very* difficult to reach the same end result. Particularly when you've been playing for around seven years. Nevermind the fact that most of us *now* have real life responsibilities, as opposed to almost a decade ago.

    Ah well. I know that the pleas of people that request this pretty much fall on deaf ears, (and I honestly do not understand how people can rage over this simple request), so I bit the bullet and have started all over again. And yeah, it is a lot quicker to at least level up, and to some extent, you can dbox over some really good gear, which is really nice. But it still is not a walk in the park, by any means.

    One thing's for sure. If it weren't for Abyssea and new xp, there is no way I would've rerolled.
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    Player Meyi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Number of people that would pay for it probably wouldn't cover the cost of implenting it.

    If you want to do this you can create a new char on the same account, level it to 30 speed level and do everything you want to do and transfer r/e equip over. It's a little more annoying but it's the same end result, just a little more work.
    Last I checked you can't transfer af/relic/empyrean (nq/+1/+2), and many other quest items. Not to mention sub jobs aren't leveled, skills are severely destroyed, and lack of access to many things, such as OPs, airship pass, abyssea clears and ports, etc.

    Still this is a good route to take in the mean time. Levels can be caught up pretty quick and gear doesn't take too long to recollect.
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    Pretty much okay with it along with paid name changes. Both tend to be argued against for the same inane reasons, but with a cash cost and cooldown period of at least 30 days, abuse won't be nearly as bad as some would want us to believe.
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    Player eddy2910's Avatar
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    Hello i am posting this because of people who keep posting to make new char if i want different stats and wanting them to know that if only its that easy ive been playing for almost 8 years and ive chosen to be a tarutaru since then and wanted to be main whm and ive learned that whm is EXTREMELY boring and cant stand the job so i leveled other jobs mainly PLD and started to work on a Aegis and just finished it couple days ago now your telling me because i want to be hume with little more HP and more Def to be main pld am have to start new char start to work on new shield to enjoy the job am on i just hope this thread will be read by someone who can put race change and you dont need to make it every 3 months week or day a 1 time thing will work for the best for mistake in race while u first started the game.
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    Player Rewyen's Avatar
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    There was not one part of that I understood.
    --> . <-- and --> , <-- {Can I have it?}
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    I do not apologize for my sarcasm, I just ask that you have a damn sense of humor. I'm the comic relief, dammit!

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    well just hope they let u race change dont like a tarudin
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    I do not apologize for my sarcasm, I just ask that you have a damn sense of humor. I'm the comic relief, dammit!

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