Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Greatguardian]

Magic skills don't take that long to level up. And you can watch a movie while doing it (Hpemdes go), whereas Melees at least have to engage their next target.

Plus there's just way too many people blazing through the levels in abyssea then running around at 90 with garbage gear and not knowing how to play their respective jobs.

Too easy. Can't take the bait.

[Ramsos]

Or SE could just do the smart thing and make it 65~70 minimal level for entry so that way people still have to party and actually experience the game first. You can't even hit anything below that range in a Visions area, much less Scars or Heroes so outside of WHM's who have refresh Atmas (or DNC with 10/regain) and possibly BRD & COR no one else has any business being there so early.

DD's won't be able to hit, Tanks will drop like a rock and even BLM's will just get resisted. Plus there's just way too many people blazing through the levels in abyssea then running around at 90 with garbage gear and not knowing how to play their respective jobs.

Because there were no 75s with garbage gear who didnt know how to play their respective jobs before abyssea existed.

[Gunit]

I think SE thinks they did the "smart thing" and make it 30 to begin with.
SE wants us to leach if you don't then don't enter abyssea til you are 90.

[DrDelicious]

and in all honesty, i dont even think its about growing scores of people who have no idea what they are doing with their jobs, or underskilled players. i think the issue behind the issue is about pride. people used to have pride in having multiple 75. it used to mean something. and now you can just leech your way to a capped level. theres nothing to be proud of. i honestly think that is the real issue behind the whole abyssea level cap debate.

[Komori]

Seeing as magic can't actually *miss* not elemental magic of which you speak of. To be honest, if you have at least one friend, you can just go through all of the zones and constantly spam tier 1 spells and skill up until you can land decent nukes in abyssea and then raise it to cap. And that shouldn't take 5 days.

I've said this before, while the people wanting Abyssea to be endgame; your a minority but I gurantee there are at least six of you always online at a time. Just do a shout in Port Jeuno for other parties.

[Greatguardian]

and in all honesty, i dont even think its about growing scores of people who have no idea what they are doing with their jobs, or underskilled players. i think the issue behind the issue is about pride. people used to have pride in having multiple 75. it used to mean something. and now you can just leech your way to a capped level. theres nothing to be proud of. i honestly think that is the real issue behind the whole abyssea level cap debate.

Half right. People did used to have pride in having 75 jobs. That doesn't mean that it ever meant anything. Those people were silly then for thinking it earned them bragging rights, and they're silly now for caring about losing said bragging rights.

[Odintius]

My opinion and im stress the my opinion here lol 1-60 should be for outside of abyssea then have access to abyssea.

[DrDelicious]

Half right. People did used to have pride in having 75 jobs. That doesn't mean that it ever meant anything. Those people were silly then for thinking it earned them bragging rights, and they're silly now for caring about losing said bragging rights.

well the people who just Ab'd jobs up for maats cap? yea. not too worried about them. im talking about people who would have a few capped jobs, and have them fully geared and were capable at them. those are the players im talking about. and sadly, most of them have left.

[Gunit]

My opinion and im stress the my opinion here lol 1-60 should be for outside of abyssea then have access to abyssea.

Why? What is wrong with the current level 30 cap?

[DrDelicious]

Why? What is wrong with the current level 30 cap?

theres a few threads on that debate, or you could just read this thread.