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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neofire View Post
    Yea the VW drop rate's are utter garbage, i've done about 138 fights and ive gotten 2 pieces of gear, Mantis Eye and Ganesha's Mask....
    lol, i got this mask too. i thought monk might get some use at first, but its on my mule somewhere and doesnt see the light of day.

    Also, why cant i trade rare/ex junk like this mask to the new daily reward system's chest instead of muling or tossing it? That reward system is junk too, i got more logs from it. I swear SE is hates the rainforests.

    Is it because they didnt want to code all the items in the game with a point value for it to be traded? If so, what was the point of a daily reward system in the first place if you can't trade rare/ex?
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 01-01-2012 at 11:17 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    If they wanted to have all items purchasable via points, then the drops would have to be associated like they did assualts, you can purchase any gear with your vw1 points (cities), your vw2 points (jueno t1-3, zm vnm), and vw3 (jueno t4-6? is it six or five, idk im stuck on t2 jueno, cn shadowreign). i feel dividing points like this would keep people helping others do the stuff that they already cleared but newer people need still, in order to get points towards a certain regional vwnm drop they wanted. Otherwise, all the veteran vw people wont go back and do cities, etc, they'll just spam whats good for them.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 01-01-2012 at 11:25 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Mask is great for monk, why don't you use it? And I call BS on 138 fights and 2 drops. Or maybe you don't trade cells or don't cap lights?
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    Honestly, i dont use the mask because i havent finished bb yet, still 1/3 on that. So, I suppose I can consider it for my ws set though, thanks i'll look into it .


    On a sidenote, I've done about 50+ vwnm and all i got is the mask, I dont always trade cells, but I do in areas where the drops are good and all I got is the mask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    I stopped counting but the only exclusive drops I've seen in my entire fights is mantis eye/houyi's gorget/Aliyat Chakram, that's trading cells and usually capping lights on most nms with worthwhile drops. Meanwhile my friend gets 3 r/e bodies in 24 hours and the Sam in my group drops his 11th strendu ring because he can only carry one. Loot distribution in VW is retarded.
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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Yea i have a friend who is very lucky too, he seems to get body's alot and he doesn't do vw as much as I do, he now seems to be disappointed if a body doesnt drop where as I'm like so not disappointed because I never expect anything to drop lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    Mask is great for monk, why don't you use it? And I call BS on 138 fights and 2 drops. Or maybe you don't trade cells or don't cap lights?
    Calling BS on your BS.

    Yes the rates really are that bad, less then 0.5% for a body even at capped lights.

    And treasure rates are not calculated for the entire alliance, their calculated on an per-individual basis. Basically each person has their own loot pool calculated separate from everyone else. I personally know two people who are 0/200+ on Pil, their constantly spamming shouts and killing him. Recently they just said "fck it" and moved on.
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    And I call BS on 138 fights and 2 drops. Or maybe you don't trade cells or don't cap lights?
    This comment annoys me, I and some friends do at least 8 VW runs a day on the 2-3 NMs we want the body from. Every day (nothing else to do on FFXI aside from VW and I'm not moving from these to the otehr NMs till I get them, or get sdo pissed off I give up on VW competley). That alone is 56 kills per week and we've been doing VW since a few weeks after it was added, last couple of months have been spamming t3 only. I know lots of people that I do these same 2 NMs again and again, use cells, lights almost always capped (always capped since update...big difference white makes lol...not).

    I see the same group of people doing them over and over and then new people join go 1/1 or 1/5 or 1/10 (and say finally...). It's completely retarded.

    As I said before it's not the horrible grind that kills everyone the most, it's the fact some people get them almost instantly and others take forever or will literally never get them at all lol Wtf is that really, what kind of stupid reward system is it that does not reward you for doing the event successfully to this amount? Random to this degree is completely crap.

    This event doesn't reward effort it rewards being able to throw a dice and make it balance on a corner. These devs need to gtfo with their love affair with random number generators, when I played other MMOs you could work out which gears you needed, organise events around it and get your gear within a decent amount of time. In FFXI you work out the gear you aren't going to ever get and waste your time doing content that your bored to death with chasing the carrot that's painted on the wall. The whole idea of Square endgame is not letting you get the drop and to put as many obstacles in your way to it as possible, instead of making new content to use this gear in they make it all about the gear and making it unobtainable.
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    Last edited by Runespider; 01-01-2012 at 09:05 PM.

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    Basically it's all about as random as it can get. I just went 1/1 on Ogier's Surcoat (body from Ig-Alima), a friend of mine finally got the body from Kaggen after more than 200 fights. 2 drops in 138 fights? I believe that np.
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    They already said they are not changing this.

    Why keep making threads?
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