More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[FrankReynolds]

It doesn't make sense because no one can seem to figure out that we are talking about a WS that is exclusive to warrior. This isn't about balancing jobs against each other, it's about balancing a job against the content.

Right, and instead of balancing the content, they messed with a weapon that people worked hard to get. They didn't make the content any more difficult. If they took war completely out of the game, the content would still be beat in virtually no time. There is a problem with the content. Not the job. They did not create content appropriate for level 99 players and are taking the easy rout of nerfing the jobs instead of fixing the bigger picture. The problem is, this doesn't fix anything. They could have built mobs with higher HP, or damage caps, or JA that make them impossible to kill without a dedicated tank, but that requires work and creativity, so they took the easy route, and that means bad things for everyone else. Not just wars.

[Brolic]

It did indeed double most jobs' numbers. 5-6k high/peak Ukko's vs most other jobs doing 2-3k on good hits.

actually at the moment my war is pretty much on par with a equally geared sam spamming shoda

[FrankReynolds]

actually at the moment my war is pretty much on par with a equally geared sam spamming shoda

And that's the thing. If they make war weak, sam will replace it, if they make sam weak, monk will replace it..... right on down the line until everyone sucks. They need to fix the content. Not nerf the jobs that are good. they would have to seriously nerf the shit out of every job to make any serious dent in peoples abilities to defeat current content. That is retarded.

[Originalkord]

And that's the thing. If they make war weak, sam will replace it, if they make sam weak, monk will replace it..... right on down the line until everyone sucks. They need to fix the content. Not nerf the jobs that are good. they would have to seriously nerf the shit out of every job to make any serious dent in peoples abilities to defeat current content. That is retarded.

FINALLY! Just when I was about to give up--Validation!!!!

[Tagrineth]

So what should they do then to "balance the content" which will magically make all jobs equally effective against it?

[Tsuneo]

So what should they do then to "balance the content" which will magically make all jobs equally effective against it?

Nope, that's a two-part process. Balancing jobs against content isn't the same as balancing jobs against other jobs. Also, you seem to forget that every job doesn't need to massive damage to be useful. There's a few heavy DD's in the game, so I don't see why people think every job deserves to be equal with WAR on damage. Buff the heavy DD's and make the other jobs more useful for other things. That's how the game the game should be. It's a ridiculous idea to have a job like THF be on equal standing with a heavy DD.

[Dart]

actually at the moment my war is pretty much on par with a equally geared sam spamming shoda

really? My irl friend is a sam nut (and a pretty good player) and he still gets beat by me by a fairly solid margin, even with 5/5 shoda.

[Brolic]

really? My irl friend is a sam nut (and a pretty good player) and he still gets beat by me by a fairly solid margin, even with 5/5 shoda.

in what abyssea or vw?

[Riaurio]

It's a ridiculous idea to have a job like THF be on equal standing with a heavy DD.

I think that is the whole problem for the majority of the player base who complains. I don't know why, but for some odd reason(Abyssea) these players who complain think that every job who isnt a mage should be considered a DD and be on par with all DD on all content. I am not saying that THF/DNC/DRG/DRK/MNK/NIN cant or should not be able to DD becuase they can, but no one is willing to stop and think about the fact that these jobs have individual roles to play and its not to be the heavy hitting DD that WAR and SAM are.

[FrankReynolds]

I think that is the whole problem for the majority of the player base who complains. I don't know why, but for some odd reason(Abyssea) these players who complain think that every job who isnt a mage should be considered a DD and be on par with all DD on all content. I am not saying that THF/DNC/DRG/DRK/MNK/NIN cant or should not be able to DD becuase they can, but no one is willing to stop and think about the fact that these jobs have individual roles to play and its not to be the heavy hitting DD that WAR and SAM are.

I can't speak on all of those jobs. Some of them are doing quite well actually, but in many cases, the other things that they are supposed to bring to the table besides damage are not very good / desired traits. Some of those jobs in events are like using a butter knife for a screw driver. If you have a couple things you need done, they will work, but when you have a big job to do, you need the right tool. The problem is that if you have 1 white mage in your group, then there is very little left for those jobs to do besides Kill Stuff. So if they want to be desired like war, they need to perform at least close to war in the damage department. The other traits they offer unfortunately don't make or break the fight in most cases.