Wheres the evidence Abyssea revived FFXI?

[Benihana]

Hi! Me and wifey recently reactivated our accounts now that 99 is here and endgame seems to be forming.

I've been reading the forums and i'm honestly in shock at some of you. Okay, here's a simple question, can someone, show me cold hard evidence ABYSSEA REVIVED FFXI? Because for me personally, me and my entire endgame ls QUIT BECAUSE of abyssea. Most of my friends quit for good and have yet to return.

So for those of you who keep spamming the board with nonsense, based on what seems to be YOUR personal experience, can you show me player data that supports it?

Because I have some! If you have been checking the active players list throughout the last year and a half since abyssea, you would notice it has gone UP these past few MONTHS. As in since the game has moved away from it.

That to me would suggest that the game isn't in anymore danger than it was when abyssea was the end and be all of endgame. Now, I'm not going to be a hypocrit and start spewing bs, saying I can prove that abyssea killed the game, but some of you are just down right delusional if you think abyssea helped ffxi.

Massive amounts of people quit when abyssea was released and supported. I very much doubt the league of people who came back to a more casual ffxi made up for the amount that quit, and even if they did, with 2 separate server merges and the active player list data MISSING from the ffxi consensus (which has been there every year for many years, coincidence, lol i think not)

Even if it did make up for those that quit, you have to remember, these are very casual players. Very casual players are much more unlikely to support a game long term. With ffxi's lifespan and current dev. team, do you really think SE has the resources to keep shelling out content so paper thin, so casuals will be satisfied? I think that would take more effort than giving endgame a more traditional ffxi endgame, which required team work and time to get the ultimate gear. It would probably take up less resources and keep people playing longer.

Now, I'm married and have a job etc, and I don't have the time to do oldschool endgame like I used to, but I do still enjoy that content and i will do what i can and focus on the things I personally enjoy.

Do i think 500 pw is reasonable? No, but I also could appreciate the journey in reaching for my goals in game. WHEN WAS ENDGAME EVER REASONABLE? from HNMs and salvage to abyssea, the time-effort ratio was either on one side, or the complete opposite. Abyssea was the 180 of salvage/hnms etc. That wasn't reasonable either, so that argument isn't valid. It boils down to what type of player you are. I prefer long term endgame goals with steady progress. I feel more accomplished and it keeps the game active and fun for me.

Now if I simply cant devote the time to such a goal, I don't do it. People need to stop bitching and complaining about stuff THEY PERSONALLY can't do and have no interest in.

Runspider/Ravenmore - You don't like the game? PLENTY OF US DO. When and if we stop enjoying it, we quit! We keep our money and do other things. If the game changes (which it has, thank god. I HATED abyssea era) I reactivate.

What I don't do it waste my time, money and resources complaining about a SMALL FRACTION of final fantasy xi.

FFXI has so much to freakin do. Do what you enjoy, and stop speaking for others. There is probably more people who don't come on these forums who enjoy the game, than all the posters on here combined.


Cause most people who don't have the time to commit to certain aspects (CERTAIN NOT ALL) also don't have the time and money to waste complaining...

When abysea came out, I wasted until 85 for new endgame stuff, and it didn't come. So me and my wife, along with most of our friends and ls members simply quit.

Me myself, I like a more traditional hardcore ENDGAME, if I don't like the endgame, I simply can't tolerate the game. I am very happy they have moved far away from abyssea and i will support them.

Am I gonna do 500 pws? Hell no, lol. But someone who wants the most POWERFUL, probably overpowered, ultimate weapon in game, WILL strive for it.

The rest of us will live with 75,80,85,90 and 95 relics,mythics and emps.


These are the ultimate weapons for f*ck sakes. This is the last upgrade. So u dont have the time to do it? Then be happy with what u can do. a lv95 version is still good.

I'm loving the game again and according the the active players list, the game isn't anymore in danger than it was when abyssea was the everything. So you're not enjoying the game? Do what I did and quit. Then SE wont have to care about you and they will cater to the rest of us who play the game and enjoy it.


If you can find me evidence that supports abyssea revived this game, awesome. I'll STFU. But there is more evidence to suggest it killed it.

People just wanna believe the game revolves around their personal interests and thats the be all and end all.

Fact check, there are 10 times AS MANY people who don't use this forum and play XI that do.

You don't speak for them. Your cries are just more public cause the rest of us either enjoy the game or move on.

[Neisan_Quetz]

What in the fuck did I just read?

If you think 500 PW is sane then I must ask you to check into the nearest mental health institution.

[Runespider]

Wheres the evidence Abyssea revived FFXI?

Hi! Me and wifey recently reactivated our accounts now that 99 is here and endgame seems to be forming.

I've been reading the forums and i'm honestly in shock at some of you. Okay, here's a simple question, can someone, show me cold hard evidence ABYSSEA REVIVED FFXI? Because for me personally, me and my entire endgame ls QUIT BECAUSE of abyssea. Most of my friends quit for good and have yet to return.

So for those of you who keep spamming the board with nonsense, based on what seems to be YOUR personal experience, can you show me player data that supports it?

Because I have some! If you have been checking the active players list throughout the last year and a half since abyssea, you would notice it has gone UP these past few MONTHS. As in since the game has moved away from it.

That to me would suggest that the game isn't in anymore danger than it was when abyssea was the end and be all of endgame. Now, I'm not going to be a hypocrit and start spewing bs, saying I can prove that abyssea killed the game, but some of you are just down right delusional if you think abyssea helped ffxi.

Massive amounts of people quit when abyssea was released and supported. I very much doubt the league of people who came back to a more casual ffxi made up for the amount that quit, and even if they did, with 2 separate server merges and the active player list data MISSING from the ffxi consensus (which has been there every year for many years, coincidence, lol i think not)

Even if it did make up for those that quit, you have to remember, these are very casual players. Very casual players are much more unlikely to support a game long term. With ffxi's lifespan and current dev. team, do you really think SE has the resources to keep shelling out content so paper thin, so casuals will be satisfied? I think that would take more effort than giving endgame a more traditional ffxi endgame, which required team work and time to get the ultimate gear. It would probably take up less resources and keep people playing longer.

Now, I'm married and have a job etc, and I don't have the time to do oldschool endgame like I used to, but I do still enjoy that content and i will do what i can and focus on the things I personally enjoy.

Do i think 500 pw is reasonable? No, but I also could appreciate the journey in reaching for my goals in game. WHEN WAS ENDGAME EVER REASONABLE? from HNMs and salvage to abyssea, the time-effort ratio was either on one side, or the complete opposite. Abyssea was the 180 of salvage/hnms etc. That wasn't reasonable either, so that argument isn't valid. It boils down to what type of player you are. I prefer long term endgame goals with steady progress. I feel more accomplished and it keeps the game active and fun for me.

Now if I simply cant devote the time to such a goal, I don't do it. People need to stop bitching and complaining about stuff THEY PERSONALLY can't do and have no interest in.

Runspider/Ravenmore - You don't like the game? PLENTY OF US DO. When and if we stop enjoying it, we quit! We keep our money and do other things. If the game changes (which it has, thank god. I HATED abyssea era) I reactivate.

What I don't do it waste my time, money and resources complaining about a SMALL FRACTION of final fantasy xi.

FFXI has so much to freakin do. Do what you enjoy, and stop speaking for others. There is probably more people who don't come on these forums who enjoy the game, than all the posters on here combined.


Cause most people who don't have the time to commit to certain aspects (CERTAIN NOT ALL) also don't have the time and money to waste complaining...

When abysea came out, I wasted until 85 for new endgame stuff, and it didn't come. So me and my wife, along with most of our friends and ls members simply quit.

Me myself, I like a more traditional hardcore ENDGAME, if I don't like the endgame, I simply can't tolerate the game. I am very happy they have moved far away from abyssea and i will support them.

Am I gonna do 500 pws? Hell no, lol. But someone who wants the most POWERFUL, probably overpowered, ultimate weapon in game, WILL strive for it.

The rest of us will live with 75,80,85,90 and 95 relics,mythics and emps.


These are the ultimate weapons for f*ck sakes. This is the last upgrade. So u dont have the time to do it? Then be happy with what u can do. a lv95 version is still good.

I'm loving the game again and according the the active players list, the game isn't anymore in danger than it was when abyssea was the everything. So you're not enjoying the game? Do what I did and quit. Then SE wont have to care about you and they will cater to the rest of us who play the game and enjoy it.


If you can find me evidence that supports abyssea revived this game, awesome. I'll STFU. But there is more evidence to suggest it killed it.

People just wanna believe the game revolves around their personal interests and thats the be all and end all.

Fact check, there are 10 times AS MANY people who don't use this forum and play XI that do.

You don't speak for them. Your cries are just more public cause the rest of us either enjoy the game or move on.

Welcome back to the game to you and your Wifey.

[Sparthos]

Defending 500 Wardens.... yeah, Stockholm's has you in its icy grip.

[cidbahamut]

Defending 500 Wardens.... yeah, Stockholm's has you in its icy grip.

This is a pretty concise summary of the majority of the playerbase in general.

[Karbuncle]

Defending 500 Wardens.... yeah, Stockholm's has you in its icy grip.

"Its okay, He only beats me cause he loves me..."

The feeling i get from the OP.

[Arcon]

Okay, here's a simple question, can someone, show me cold hard evidence ABYSSEA REVIVED FFXI?

No. No one can. Also, people should stop mentioning that 500 PW garbage already. It's getting old.

[Runespider]

No. No one can. Also, people should stop mentioning that 500 PW garbage already. It's getting old.

If Abyssea never happened, how many people would be playing FFXI now?

Just before Aby people were bored out of their fricking skulls of the same old content over and over infinitum, the playerbase was dying before Aby and people know that to be the case.

Salvage, Ein, Kings, sky, limbus, Dynamis. Abyssea came at just the right time for me and many others, we all went and tried FF14 but came back because FFXI was actaulyl fun to play again.

[Haruka-Ash]

i got banned because i grinded like mad what else do you need to know?

[Tohihroyu]

They come, they join, get 99 (or 95 if last LB is QQ too hard!), get the gear they want, get bored, quit.

For those returning: Don't bother, quit after the first day back.