More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[Chriscoffey]

You even whine about other whiners. And you come in here, telling us about how much you whined and how you whined first and how now we come and infringe upon your rights as whiners. Man you DRK are emo. Seriously.

Just for the record, no one said they were happy about any previous nerfs. I really don't know why DRK, RNG and THF come in here and say shit like "We've had it even worse, you don't get to complain!", who the fuck cares? The WAR who complain because now other jobs may be better are stupid. That's not an argument. It's not a race. But you guys who come in here just to gloat about how now WAR sucks (big news: it doesn't) are equally stupid. This about sums it up perfectly:

You were the moron who started in with the "time used to get X item" argument or being betrayed because SE adjusts a job. I could give a damn less bud I have most all these jobs to use so doesn't make a damn to me. I just find it funny you start this emo fest about someone spending time to do something and being betrayed then in the very next fucking sentence you tell me I'm emo because I give an example that SE nerf'd dark knight with haste nerf while buffing everyone else to godly proportions after people spent their time (even years not weeks) to complete it. You are pretty much a damn bias person to say the least.

[FrankReynolds]

You were the moron who started in with the "time used to get X item" argument or being betrayed because SE adjusts a job. I could give a damn less bud I have most all these jobs to use so doesn't make a damn to me. I just find it funny you start this emo fest about someone spending time to do something and being betrayed then in the very next fucking sentence you tell me I'm emo because I give an example that SE nerf'd dark knight with haste nerf while buffing everyone else to godly proportions after people spent their time (even years not weeks) to complete it. You are pretty much a damn bias person to say the least.

Justifying nerfing other jobs just because some other job got it in the past is lame.

IE.: I used to beat kids up in school, there for it's fine if I beat up more kids, cuz other kids had it just as bad. pretty lame excuse.

[Arcon]

You were the moron who started in with the "time used to get X item" argument or being betrayed because SE adjusts a job. I could give a damn less bud I have most all these jobs to use so doesn't make a damn to me. I just find it funny you start this emo fest about someone spending time to do something and being betrayed then in the very next fucking sentence you tell me I'm emo because I give an example that SE nerf'd dark knight with haste nerf while buffing everyone else to godly proportions after people spent their time (even years not weeks) to complete it. You are pretty much a damn bias person to say the least.

Just for the record, no one said they were happy about any previous nerfs.

That includes me. I call most DRK whiners for a lot of reasons, none of which include the Haste nerf (unless they're being particularly annoying about it). For that matter, I also call a lot of WAR whiners for a lot of reasons (even in this thread), none of which include gimping Ukko's. I called you a whiner because you came in here and bitch about how much worse you've had it and that we shouldn't be complaining. It had nothing at all to do with Apocalypse. As usual, you bitch about nothing. Whiner.

Oh and as a side note: the 20% delay cap affects a lot of jobs, not just DRK. It wasn't an "Apocalypse" nerf, it was a nerf that pulled Apocalypse down with it. Admittedly, that doesn't make it better for people going for Apocalypse, then again, no one said that it did. You just assumed that.

[Chriscoffey]

That includes me. I call most DRK whiners for a lot of reasons, none of which include the Haste nerf (unless they're being particularly annoying about it). For that matter, I also call a lot of WAR whiners for a lot of reasons (even in this thread), none of which include gimping Ukko's. I called you a whiner because you came in here and bitch about how much worse you've had it and that we shouldn't be complaining. It had nothing at all to do with Apocalypse. As usual, you bitch about nothing. Whiner.

Oh and as a side note: the 20% delay cap affects a lot of jobs, not just DRK. It wasn't an "Apocalypse" nerf, it was a nerf that pulled Apocalypse down with it. Admittedly, that doesn't make it better for people who went for Apocalypse, then again, no one said that it did. You just assumed that.

I had to adjust that because comparing what apocalypse is now to what it was then is not only a farce comparison but it by no means shows a representable presentation of just how broken Apocalypse was during that time when other melee didn't have even close to the power they do now or haste.

My point was that people who went for Apocalypse (this includes me and my first apoc) who spent years to complete it then it being nerfed and everyone else adjusted to the zerg extreme clearly is in line with what you said about people doing weapons for what they were before a nerf. This after you called me emo for mentioning what is clearly a fact of the game and irked me at the time much like this is bothering warriors ,however, this being a much smaller scale of nerf by comparison to that time.

[Kriegsgott]

this update made me lol i like it

[Neisan_Quetz]

this update made me lol i like it

So you're happy other people get nerfed, because it doesn't affect your relic.

That really is lame.

[newmonkey]

So you're happy other people get nerfed, because it doesn't affect your relic.

That really is lame.

Oh look here you're only crying because you have a ukon yes ? I don't get how thick those blinkers you have on must be to have not been able to see the ws was overpowered i swear you people forget ukon has an amazing aftermath.

[Kriegsgott]

So you're happy other people get nerfed, because it doesn't affect your relic.

That really is lame.

looks like i'm missing the relic part on my prev post -.-
or you ar a special smart one ?!

[Neisan_Quetz]

Oh look here you're only crying because you have a ukon yes ? I don't get how thick those blinkers you have on must be to have not been able to see the ws was overpowered i swear you people forget ukon has an amazing aftermath.

Yes, it has the same amazing aftermath... as every other Emp Weapon. So instead of asking for buffs/removing penalties so other jobs would be more popular, you're happy someone else is nerfed, which doesn't change anything about other jobs, and just makes it so we all do less damage.

looks like i'm missing the relic part on my prev post -.-
or you ar a special smart one ?!

I can't fathom why any monk would be happy VS was getting nerfed unless they weren't using VS in the first place.

[Kriegsgott]

tbh i'm not a big abyssea friend this made people lazy and if SE going to fix/balance or just move away from all the easy Abyssea work i'm happy about it
> this has nothing to do with my relic serously....