More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[Concerned4FFxi]

This sucks

[Tagrineth]

For the record: Anyone that's like "THESE WS BEEN AROUND FOR A YEAR WITHOUT NERFS WHY NOW?!" well until recently, we didn't have legitimate high-level content to use them on. Abyssea doesn't count. The crit RATE modifiers on the WS are 99% irrelevant inside Abyssea.

I think it's peoples' screenshots demonstrating 4k+ Smites and Furies on the Jeuno & Outlands T3 VNMs at lvl 95 that got SE's attention and showed that the WS are simply overpowered. I've never seen a Kaggen or Pil go down as fast as when we had 3+ 90Ukon WARs smashing them, and the groups I generally run with don't even normally allow non-relic/mythic/emp DDs.

If you really don't think Ukko's is unreasonably overpowered, you have a worse grasp of game balance than SE does.

[Modoru]

THF says hi, we get to do nothing except treasure hunter, but okay, have fun with your high numbers, we'll pull off a cool SC whenever we can get bully up.

if the mob's still alive by then.

but hey, if we do, the whole party gets pissed.

being a THF is fun, ain't it?

[Insaniac]

That would make sense if SE hadn't created these WSs. They knew the beast they were setting loose when they plugged in the variables for the WS. It's not like they just type in numbers and go "lets see what this does lol" no matter how much it seems like that's the case sometimes.

[Orson]

Adventurers seeking to reach the absolute pinnacle of power better watch out because we'll be balancing the #$%& out of everything to make sure it feels like next to nothing has changed. PUPDATE FTW!!!!!!! New abilities at 99? nope. New weaponskills at 99? Sure but they'll be equal or suck worse than previous ones. New gear for everyone? Naaaaaaah with our wildly random, droprates and loot tables you can repeat the same fights over and over ad infinitum because someone in your group is bound to be screwed out of the piece they want.

Seriously what the heck is wrong with SE? All people really wanted was a slightly more challenging experience than Abyssea. Now they just seem to be going back to their same terrible practices. When was the last time we had so many nerfs? They could have easily just improved the new weaponskills that came out to compete with War and Mnk, but no they have to weaken classes. This with the advent of a new level cap supposedly raising everyone's power, are you kidding me?? It's the most backwards way of doing things I've ever seen.

[Arcon]

I still wanna know, finish my Ukkon? Or move on to my Cor's Armageddon? Is it still worth getting? I know we havent seen any tests, and this is all just on paper. But I dont wanna keep busting my ass dual boxing for this weapon, when the WS turns out to be the same dmg as Ragin Rush or something lol

Not sure why you're asking, seeing how we don't know the extent of the nerf yet. It's not even on the test servers yet. It's possible they'll completely gimp the WS. It's also possible it won't be noticeable at all. We don't know yet.

My bet is that Ukko's will still be great, just not as great. But anything on this is pure speculation.

For the record: Anyone that's like "THESE WS BEEN AROUND FOR A YEAR WITHOUT NERFS WHY NOW?!" well until recently, we didn't have legitimate high-level content to use them on. Abyssea doesn't count. The crit RATE modifiers on the WS are 99% irrelevant inside Abyssea.

They're not. Not because the damage output actually matters, but because it shows how much Ukko's is better than other WS. If they see Ukko's Fury doing 3~4 times the damage of a normal WS inside Abyssea, they can reasonable assume that it'll do at least twice the damage of other WS outside too. Also, even if it was just about VW, it's also been out for over half a year already, which is more than enough time to realize it. You just seem to be looking for reasons for why they would do this. No one disagrees that Ukko's was overpowered, it doesn't change the fact that this is a completely dick move.

[..] being a THF is fun, ain't it?

Your point being... nothing, I guess? Wrong thread?

[casual]

Obtain level 99, deal less damage than 90. Grats MNK and WAR. How can they seriously announce things like this, and even add a silly little picture to go along with it? Do they seriously think adding that picture is going to inspire anything but rage among anyone who owns an Ukon or Verethragna?

[Scribble]

Not sure why you're asking, seeing how we don't know the extent of the nerf yet. It's not even on the test servers yet. It's possible they'll completely gimp the WS. It's also possible it won't be noticeable at all. We don't know yet.

Wait a fucking minute... You mean to tell me that all this bitching, all the fucking crying and moaning swirling around warriors now is about a nerf that NO ONE HAS TESTED!?!?! NO ONE EVEN KNOWS HOW MUCH THEY WILL BE EFFECTED??? Man, you guys... you don't need to be hit with the nerf hammer, you need to be mashed to a pulp and then bent over for being babies about nothing.

Just because your AF3 looks like a tiara doesn't mean you guys should act like princesses. Toughen up pussies.

[Alderin]

If they are going to nerf something - nerf Shoha... WAR is a brute. Meant to be the heavy 2-h DD. SAM is skilled in 2h katana arts - meant to be able to build devastating combo's..

Instead they are taking away what they do best and that is damage. SAM has their own way to deal it and that is pump out 30% more weapon skills then any other job. Of course their hits arent meant to be as hard.

I feel sorry for the Masa SAM's on the most recent update however.. Now anyone can pick up a TP Bonus katana that can be built in an EXP party, merit shoha and deal the same if not more damage then someone who grinds it out for a legendary weapon.

If they are nerfing Ukko's & Blood rage, they need to nerf Shoha also.

[Alderin]

how are the jp's reacting to this?

Not well.. camping Ratatoskr with 2x JP WAR's and they arent happy.