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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pewpew View Post
    I agree, this could easily be implemented on the title screen same way it prompts you to change your name when you server change. There is no reason they couldn't implement this, nor shouldn't.
    It's anything but easy... it would mess up active quests and currently equiped gear, and adds nothing to the game.

    It takes money and time to create something like this, and unless they ask something like $500 for a change, it wouldn't even break even in any reasonable time period.

    If people were really desperate, they would simply create a mule of their liking, or even a second account and dual box it.
    Not like it's hard to level a character to working order nowadays...
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    oh look the WoW players want having something WoW has. I took my mithra because I wanted to have a cute catlady. I didnt think "Oh I want to play Mage, now I want my mithra transform into a Taru" or "I want to be a Monk, I want to transform Intho a Dhalmel" or "Oh I want to be standard in everything, lets be a hume"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    oh look the WoW players want having something WoW has. I took my mithra because I wanted to have a cute catlady. I didnt think "Oh I want to play Mage, now I want my mithra transform into a Taru" or "I want to be a Monk, I want to transform Intho a Dhalmel" or "Oh I want to be standard in everything, lets be a hume"
    Nice comparison since I've never played WoW.

    If they allowed users to change there race every day or week then yes, that would be absolutely stupid, which is why I stated it should be like a world transfer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    It's anything but easy... it would mess up active quests and currently equiped gear, and adds nothing to the game.

    It takes money and time to create something like this, and unless they ask something like $500 for a change, it wouldn't even break even in any reasonable time period.

    If people were really desperate, they would simply create a mule of their liking, or even a second account and dual box it.
    Not like it's hard to level a character to working order nowadays...
    You obviously haven't read anything I've said, I don't see how it would mess up any gear a part from starter and level 30 RSE gear, however if you know you are going to change your race, you'd be smart enough to either NPC or sell the gear.

    It takes time and money to create anything in this world, the outcome of this would be a larger profit to them as there are plenty of players who will want to change there race due to playing the game for years on end, another fact I stated was that people who have achieved all the good gear in this game don't want to start over again just for a race change, when if SE introduced this to the game, I'm sure there will be thousands of people who will pay for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disguise View Post
    You obviously haven't read anything I've said, I don't see how it would mess up any gear a part from starter and level 30 RSE gear, however if you know you are going to change your race, you'd be smart enough to either NPC or sell the gear.
    It's really quite elementary. If you're a tarutaru paladin, you're gearing more for HP. If you're a Galka Paladin, you're gearing more for damage. Race quite drastically affects stats in this game, giving Galka's a whopping 400 hp more than a tarutaru in the case of Paladin. With race having such an affect, this too has a domino effect on all the gear you're likely to equip over your gameplay, not to mention which stat merits you'll be buying.

    Tarutaru have little need for MP merits, though some may choose to max it anyway, so they'll likely aim for HP merits. They might merit Strength to make up for their lower STR too. You see how it becomes central to decision making?

    Changing race undermines the entire system. That's the major reason I can't support this idea, though it's been bounced around countless times. Anyone who's played the game from both sides of the spectrum can easily see the massive difference that race can make.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disguise View Post
    I don't see why they wouldn't allow this to happen, I don't see the big deal with people allowed to change there race every few months.
    Make a new character if you want to play a different race. Next time, give more throught to the name and appearance of your character when you create a character in an MMO.

    gain the stat bonus they have ect.
    The "stat bonuses" more like stat differences, are trivial. They've been further trivialized by events like Abyssea. They purposely made these differences small so that there wouldn't be any reason to feel a need to change later. Enable this and you'll have people tactically changing their race whenever they decide they need more of a stat. Even with a long cooldown, it would still be a problem. I'm against changing names and races. People should give more care and attention to these things when they create their character. So you created a Mithra named Peepeeman? Well, sucks to be you. Next time, don't be silly when you create your character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The "stat bonuses" more like stat differences, are trivial.
    Not entirely true, there is one nontrivial stat difference in this game, but just one. Hit Points.

    While you can get methods to restore MP enough and decent convert HP->MP gear to make a lower MP pool not be as big a deal, the reverse isn't exactly true.

    Tarutaru HP is the only stat that is different enough that it would actively affect performance. Short of SE giving Tarutaru an RSE equip in a dump slot that gave like +X% HP to make them match a Hume or Mithra at least, Tarutaru lag behind a bit in the damage taking department a bit more then the trivial stats have affect on. I somewhat doubt that a Tarutaru's higher INT is going to influence magic resists often enough to save the day when a lower HP pool doesn't.

    For a game that has pretty decent racial balance in terms of gameplay power - where any player despite past character selection choices can pick up just about job and play well enough that there is little question about whether they should be playing the job, this is slightly disappointing. It isn't an urgent matter though (and certainly not a reason to say we should be able to change races, although there may be other reasons for that), just disappointing.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Not entirely true, there is one nontrivial stat difference in this game, but just one. Hit Points.
    I agree with this and most of what you said- I suppose I should have thrown that exception in there. Though in spite of this, most of the people I know want to switch TO tarutaru either because they're cute or because they want a little more INT on BLM, rather than away from them for their most visible weakness.
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    Player Zerich's Avatar
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    but would this make any sense within the game; changing the biology of your characters?
    no
    world transfer can be justified because nothing about the world is actually changing, just a different group of people that inhabit it. not once are your characters and npcs aware that there are other servers/worlds (non- [a] [s] or other) that have the same exact timelines and storylines as your own world. it just wouldn't make sense within the respects of the RPG within this MMORPG, for you to go all mutant and change your race.
    much rather SE be spending their man-hours working towards more productive matters within the game.
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    I think they should add race/sex chance because it allows players to enjoy the game from the perspective and benefits of another race. It also adds a "new" feeling for the player without having to start a new character all over again and deal with every single mission,quest, and equipment upgrade they would have lost from creating a new character.

    Players have even said they were willing to pay for the service. Honestly, RSE gear and quests are not even relevant with the way SE has been making anything worth using all races so I can't agree with that being a legit reason not to add such a wanted and common MMORPG feature.

    I do agree that the design team has some serious issues to deal with like VW drops, New WSs usefulness, and crazy relic/emp/mythic trials. But there is already like 400+ post on each of those so I won't go into that mess. lol
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    I think they should add race/sex chance because it allows players to enjoy the game from the perspective and benefits of another race.
    The perspective of another race can be experienced by creating another character. The "benefits" of another race should not be allowed to be gained- people would change their race like they change their job, just for that tiny miniscule edge it would give them. I do not want to see people going "oh, I want to play BLM full time for a while, so I'll change to Tarutaru. Next month, I'll focus on Warrior and switch to Elvaan." Even though as described earlier, most racial characteristic differences are trivial at best.

    It's a "common MMORPG feature" that shouldn't exist. making your physical characteristics and name unchangable is a deterrent to doing silly things with them and encourages you to make your choices carefully.

    The only kind of physical feature change I would ever support is if new races/faces were added, allowing a ONE TIME recustomization so as not to punish everyone who made their characters before said new stuff came out.
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