Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[RAIST]

Personally, I've never understood why people just sit around Jueno or Whitegate with a flag up all day, then complain about not being able to get a party.

If your motivation is to get XP...why are you sitting on your duff, waiting for someone to do the work for you?

Either A) make your own party, or B) um... go kill stuff will your flag is up.

I managed to solo entire levels while lfp many times over. I hardly even partied at all on BRD and WHM from 45 to 51--I did FOV and campaign most the way (gotta love having /BST to exploit). Then I soloed or low-manned with LS mates with WHM from 51 to 75, simply because I didn't want to sit around waiting for a full group to form up.

Really people, don't gripe about your wasted time sitting around waiting for a party. You can easily solo upwards of 1/8 your current level per hour now at any given point in time with FOV now. In sky, at 80+, I was getting upwards of 3k a page. That's over 3k for 11 mobs. Easy xp. If you don't want to do that, you can do Bastion. My personal Best on DRK on it's way to 85 was 13k in one wave. That's 13k in under 5 minutes.

Seriously, if you want experience points, get off your butts and just DO EET!!!

Raist

[Icestein]

If your lvl30 and just enter, you start out with 0exp per kill...

It's not low enough! It should be -200exp, then people would think twice about leeching instead of getting an outside party!!

I'm joking, just in case the Krystal-esques didn't realise that.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

to get this back on track some..... my argument is based off the thinking that getting to max level from leeching breeds bad players, people who do not understand the job well, prove me wrong on this and I will be glad to drop my argument, and even try this "leeching" myself. (videos, pics, something) Hell for all I know, my stubbornness on this topic could be from me not playing for a year. (just started about a week ago)

[Krystal]

A 66% Exp penalty (30 / 90) isn't high enough? Ok.

no.....it's not. friend of mine on alex leached at 35 and told me she was getting 250 exp a kill after some time. while this seems small take in account the rate of kills...that's enough for most lazy asses to want to leach exp. drop that to below 100exp per kill and they will think twice.

[rog]

Yeah let's pull arbitrary numbers out of our ass and throw them around as great ideas! Yeah! How about we ban 93% of the players who don't use gear swaps, and leave the last 7% for lulz! Yeah!

I wouldn't have a problem with that.

[Ryland]

oh and cleave the level cap down to 1 is fine

I agree completely.

[Krystal]

It's not low enough! It should be -200exp, then people would think twice about leeching instead of getting an outside party!!

I'm joking, just in case the Krystal-esques didn't realise that.

so funny i forgot to laugh......>.>; /burntrollpost

[Nepharite]

to get this back on track some..... my argument is based off the thinking that getting to max level from leeching breeds bad players, people who do not understand the job well, prove me wrong on this and I will be glad to drop my argument, and even try this "leeching" myself. (videos, pics, something)

Bad players will be bad players no matter how they level. They want to just get by.
Good players always strive to improve themselves. They want to be good.

[Greatguardian]

Krystal, who is your character and how many jobs do you have levelled? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Alexander/Pikachuninetail

Confirmed WHM and SCH 90 at the least.

[Nepharite]

no.....it's not. friend of mine on alex leached at 35 and told me she was getting 250 exp a kill after some time. while this seems small take in account the rate of kills...that's enough for most lazy asses to want to leach exp. drop that to below 100exp per kill and they will think twice.

You do start with a huge exp penalty, but if your pt is good enough, you can dig yourself out of the exp penalty and reach the normal cap on exp.