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    So what I got is that UI changes (i.e. Showing TP/MP for other members, Unlimited Macro lines, etc.) to "improve" game play are okay because while they aren't sanctioned changes to UI functionality they "improve" game play.

    But changing piss colored boots to something else isn't okay even though it "improves" Shadowsong's game play by not having to stare at something he/she considers to be ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    So what I got is that UI changes (i.e. Showing TP/MP for other members, Unlimited Macro lines, etc.) to "improve" game play are okay because while they aren't sanctioned changes to UI functionality they "improve" game play.

    But changing piss colored boots to something else isn't okay even though it "improves" Shadowsong's game play by not having to stare at something he/she considers to be ugly.
    Hell if i cared abou that Shoes :P They would still be ugly on my Screen. If it improves something for you... i'd say:
    Sure ok. But you still look like a Hobo on my Screen.
    On the other Hand UI changes, while i won't say that breaking the ToS is cool or anything, will improve that Persons Gameplay which results in benefitting the whole Group.

    So better looks for Weapons should be made by SE aswell as a better UI. If a Player changes their DATs who am i to stop them it doesn't hurt me. If a Player changes their UI and plays better as a result, cool i benefit.

    I would benefit form nicer looking Gear on other Players too in a Way .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eri View Post
    Hell if i cared abou that Shoes :P They would still be ugly on my Screen. If it improves something for you... i'd say:
    Sure ok. But you still look like a Hobo on my Screen.
    Ah ha! But If i change my own SAM AF3, I never see ANY SAM AF3

    Edit: And come on, changing all jug pets on BST to Voidwroughts, Promathias, and Ark Angel MRs is badass as hell lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsong View Post
    Ah ha! But If i change my own SAM AF3, I never see ANY SAM AF3

    Edit: And come on, changing all jug pets on BST to Voidwroughts, Promathias, and Ark Angel MRs is badass as hell lol
    Badass.. and wrong.. because Voidwrought(iron giant) is clearly an automaton swap! Although caturae look better then a clunky pile of parts.
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    But changing piss colored boots to something else isn't okay even though it "improves" Shadowsong's game play by not having to stare at something he/she considers to be ugly.
    You're still not getting what I was saying. I don't care if people dat swap or not, I'm simply saying there's a reason some people don't like it/won't do it, and telling these people to go dat swap when they voice their concerns is missing the point. They don't simply want to change it on their end, they want a weapon model that says, "I did x trial". Shallow? Yes. For some people that's part of the fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    You're still not getting what I was saying. I don't care if people dat swap or not, I'm simply saying there's a reason some people don't like it/won't do it, and telling these people to go dat swap when they voice their concerns is missing the point. They don't simply want to change it on their end, they want a weapon model that says, "I did x trial". Shallow? Yes. For some people that's part of the fun.
    Then work on the weapon that looks the way you want instead of wanting a weapon that isn't supposed to be special or unique to become special/unique looking when you didn't choose to pursue the special/unique weapon path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Then work on the weapon that looks the way you want instead of wanting a weapon that isn't supposed to be special or unique to become special/unique looking when you didn't choose to pursue the special/unique weapon path.
    Lol theres Trail Weapons that have arguably better stats. Wanna force players to use crappy weapons for better looks?
    Wanna have everone look the same but have good Stats?

    Seriously some New weapon Models turned up lately. Trail Weapons didn't get any.

    If I see 1 more Person say :"Dat Swap!" i'd say: "Brain swap!" Seriously.
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    Last edited by Eri; 12-08-2011 at 04:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eri View Post
    Lol theres Trail Weapons that have arguably better stats. Wanna frorce players to use crappy weapons for beeter looks?
    Wanna have everone look the same but have good Stats?

    Seriously some New weapon Models turned up lately. Trail Weapons didn't get any.

    If I see 1 more Person say :"Dat Swap!" i'd say: "Brain swap!" Seriously.
    I'd say don't cry about some of the best off hand stat weapons that anyone with half a brain can make not looking unique or special. But if you are gonna cry then dat swap is the answer because again they aren't supposed to be unique or special.

    Now the new merit WS could make many Emp/Relic WS obsolete thus making elemental weapons better as they're easy to keep upgraded but since those are still being tested and could be nerfed I wouldn't bank on that yet.
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    Player Eri's Avatar
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    Everyone with 'Dumb Luck' can get better looking weapons out of Abys or VW (Some Unique Weapon Models on Top) that have rather decent Stats and are considderably less time that any easy Trail Wep, therefore they Simply shoud look at least decent...
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    Last edited by Eri; 12-08-2011 at 03:39 AM.
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    lv119 DNC ~ 119 SAM ~ 119 More that i dont use.
    Gute Mädchen kommen in den Himmel ! Böse Mädchen kommen überall hin !!

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    It takes a lot more than dumb luck to get HQ weapons from Voidwatch in less time than it takes to create any magian.

    As in, Winning the Mog Bonanza type luck.

    Do we complain about magians because people who win mog bonanza get free relics? Nah.
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