Newest interview (abyssea was a mistake?)

[Natasha]

In Abyssea what's the respawn time of a monster that someone "might" consider an HNM? 1 min ??? respawns with many NMs that can be spammed once they respawn from that 10-15min timer? Oh I know Shinryu with his max 20 hour "respawn" due to possibly not having stones, though with stones its what a 10-20minute walk back and forth? I'm not saying these are HNMs to me but to many other people I've played with they talk about their difficulty for them on that scale.

After I got my first job to 75 the reason I gave a damn about EXP was to level up sub jobs or other jobs to become a more useful asset for events I wanted to do with friends. I already did the stories with my first job outside of the Artifact stories a skip button didn't hurt me since I'm competent enough to be able to learn how to play a job from research it. Also until SE removed the level caps from mission fights being level 25 or level 75 for the 2-3 didn't change anything.

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM, if anything its more like sea or sky. And you should have to work to get other job options up to par period, otherwise you might as well just make it so that when you have one job level'd you have them all level'd. Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me.

[Luvbunny]

All the gear in abyssea replaces a large portion of gear which came from the previous set of endgame activities: Ein. Salvage, Dynamis, Limbus, Sea, Sky, HNM, ZNM, VNM.
9 Endgame events all holding a various spread of difference in activity to complete and gear? Variety, Why did abyssea have to replace 9 areas of content for high level players instead of being alongside it. Which leads me to say, you can call it emo rage whatever, but many players who did camp HNM, and seriously endgamed for their gear, made a relic, anything pre abyssea, when it was hard to finish things, more than likely felt f**ked by SE for various things as abyssea gear replacing almost everything weve worked for, gear that you could obtain by simply afk swinging mostly cause of atmas.

Yes this is grand, I can now have my AF3+1 and AF3+2 with good effort, and no longer have to wait for YEARS for these. I can have access to all the jobs FAST and test them and play them at 95 (soon 99) and have time to learn each one and gear them. And yeah its grand because the game is no longer an investment and require a lot less time to get things done, I mean god forbid I want to do other things that are meaningful and memorable.

[Greatguardian]

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM, if anything its more like sea or sky. And you should have to work to get other job options up to par period, otherwise you might as well just make it so that when you have one job level'd you have them all level'd. Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me.

LOL

Pantokrator shits all over Fafnir/Niddy, are you kidding me? Overworld HNM were hard? If you didn't want to link your bots to as many people as possible to claim and get DKP/loot, you could kill any of them with less than 6 easily.

Yeah, I can duo Pantokrator too. But holy shit, lol. You can't get much easier than overworld HNM.

[Luvbunny]

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM, if anything its more like sea or sky. And you should have to work to get other job options up to par period, otherwise you might as well just make it so that when you have one job level'd you have them all level'd. Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me.

Those sky - sea gears still takes some time to get and you need to put some investment, they are just not as hard as it used to be and you can do it low man now. If you want the augment stuffs, you have to do it regularly. I don't even want them since they are more hassle to get unlike the abyssea gears, but at least now I have a choice with my gears. Even voidwatch is an investment, and walk of echoes as well - it's great that you have so many choices and options and many ways to obtain your gears. You also have options to do it solo-duo, low man or the old school 18 people style. I now have almost events every day and can play with many different type of players and always get something, even trash like logs

[Zagen]

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM, if anything its more like sea or sky. And you should have to work to get other job options up to par period, otherwise you might as well just make it so that when you have one job level'd you have them all level'd. Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me.

You do realize many people considered Sky and Sea to be filled with HNMs when 75 was the cap right? Just because you nor I thought that (with the exception of Kirin, JoL/AV in my case) doesn't mean the general consensus wasn't that they were filled with HNMs, heck before I got to Sky I used to think those were HNMs too.

[Winrie]

Winrie, the objective now is to sell more and make more money. Abyssea did just that, it give access to everyone, completely accessible for even lvl 30 to do quests and give SE a good amount of sales that bring back many who quit during the 2008-2010 period where contents are rare and the game languished for awhile after the lackluster respond to WoTG. As long as they can create content that is appealing to the masses (read easy, fun, accessible) and bring money, they will do this. And yes you can play more Skyrim now since FFXI is no longer a huge time sink and investment, isn't that grand?

And you missed the bit where i said people were camping HNMs and doing 9 zones of endgame for YEARS, not one year cap quit. thats not making money its bottlenecking and stopping the flow, and only cause it replaced and destroyed so much established content, not cause it existed.

[Natasha]

LOL

Pantokrator shits all over Fafnir/Niddy, are you kidding me? Overworld HNM were hard? If you didn't want to link your bots to as many people as possible to claim and get DKP/loot, you could kill any of them with less than 6 easily.

Yeah, I can duo Pantokrator too. But holy shit, lol. You can't get much easier than overworld HNM.

Where in my post did I say they were hard?

[Natasha]

You do realize many people considered Sky and Sea to be filled with HNMs when 75 was the cap right? Just because you nor I thought that (with the exception of Kirin, JoL/AV in my case) doesn't mean the general consensus wasn't that they were filled with HNMs, heck before I got to Sky I used to think those were HNMs too.

Yep but thats why I said overworld as sky and sea were a bit different.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Overworld NMs were fun, I mean, sleep actually landed back then.

[Greatguardian]

Where in my post did I say they were hard?

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM

Non-brew Shinryu shits all over any RotZ/ToAU/WotG overworld HNM, and he's not even that hard.

Don't compare easy content to other easy content and think you're making a point. HNM were piss easy, and only pants-on-head retarded shells still raged fafnir in 2009.