Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Xensai]

yeah in some aspects the older ways were different some could say better but ask yourselves this? how is leeching abyssea any different from getting PL'd throughout 1/2 of your levels? i mean the dunes back in the day you loved it when u were getting PL'd i dont know about the other people who use abyssea to leech but i myself have 2 accounts which i ask the leader if i can leech on one whilst healing on the other and before i see rants/flames about how im gonna be gimp because i didnt level my job correctly so i dont know how to play it properly. i get the gear i need level the skills i need to and play the job inside and out with my friends before i take it anywhere where the general public can see how/what i've even done.

[Kjara]

I don't think leeching in abyssea can be compared to being PLed... PL in the first place can't kill the mobs for you, you can't just stay idle and watch. But I guess I see your point.

[Invasion]

There's a difference between burning a job to 90 and knowing the job and not. This game has been around long enough for people to have an understanding of game mechanics, so when I recently burned WAR to 90 I knew exactly what I was doing once finished. Just because I'd never used Raging Rush before doesn't mean I don't know how to gear for it, the same for TP in that you follow the same rules.

[Rambus]

There's a difference between burning a job to 90 and knowing the job and not. This game has been around long enough for people to have an understanding of game mechanics, so when I recently burned WAR to 90 I knew exactly what I was doing once finished. Just because I'd never used Raging Rush before doesn't mean I don't know how to gear for it, the same for TP in that you follow the same rules.

you would think so wouldn't you?

na i hate the abyssea being able to enter at 30, really need to go back to real parties where people actally kicked people if they use a level 10 scythe and mab gear on a level 75 drk

[Morlen]

i say let em, they wanna leech their way up, thats fine

cuz the ppl that know the jobs, u know, the ones that have actually logged like 100+hrs on it fighting hnms/gods etc will be able to spot em in a heartbeat

back in the day with bought characters, i used to kick em from my xp pt's all the time
an rdm that doesnt use convert to save his mp(odd i know)
a war that never used provoke when nin lost hate and mob went for the mages
a drk that blows all /ja's +ws at start of fight
a rng using /whm and a 'rang wearing melee att gear( this one made me lol when i saw this)

they will get known in time

and to those that do learn the job they burn up, good for u!
less of a burden on those ppl depending on u to do the role

[Rambus]

I Disagree with OP.

I have 3 jobs at 60 now, because its harder then hell to get them into regular parties at that point.

I'm sick of all these whiners about lower lvls in abyss. I havent been in abyss for weeks because they dont let in anyone under 75 already. Which translates into a bunch of whiners not allowing me to leech for two hours so I can xp for a couple weeks with a nongimp character. Sad really.

thats WHY entery should be 70+ or 75+ if people under those levels can't enter abysea the old way of pting would be more common and thus your personal invites would increase.

I had 19 75s before abyssea, it was not hard to get into a party the days before abyssea came out. it was hard for some jobs like how pup, dnc, pld, drk may be looked down on but all and all it wasn't that hard, plus you had level sync to make it easier.

the only counter I can see to my agurment is that new people entering is low, I do not understand why, maybe recruit a friend program like wow does, i really dont know its kinda strange to me

[Ezikiel]

i get with my shell all the time and just go do Random xp parties all you need is good friends not everyone is stuck in abyssea 24/7 LS wintersoul on bismarck

[viion]

If they did this to prevent leechers, they might as well fix up astral burn (if they havent already)

[Kailea_Nagisa]

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tell me why his post is stupid? Leveling was not hard, and hell with the new updates to it, it is even easier, I duoed with an LS mate, and we where level synced to level 11, I went from 42 to 43 in about 20-25 mins. That is not bad at all. We had a PL but they really did not do much since we where 1-2 shooting everything. If the PL was not there I would have said more like 30 mins, and even then, that is not bad.

This is an MMORPG you should not beable to level a job from 30 to 75 in a day -.-

[NightDagger]

I understand what everyone is saying here and I agree with 75% os the posts. There is not alot of difference between what people are trying to say.

If the cap in abyssea was say 45+ for Visions, 60+ for Scars & 75+ for Hero's then it would still allow everyone equal opportunity. That is of course in accordance with the mob levels in each zone. Why can't a 45 pt be made and go burn in Vision zones? It would work, people would be getting good xp & then they could actually feel some accomplishment.

These are all just thoughts but we know SE will have a hard time changing anything at this point. They could nerf abyssea which would eliminate the alliance & back to 6 person party. I personally enjoy just going in with 4 or 5 people, do some DOM's and get some merits.

Is nice to see that people are getting more civilized on these threads and not as negative towards the OP for just stating something that a lot of people agree with.

NightDagger
Server - Lakshmi