Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[CaelThunderwing]

inb4 /gearswap

i cant count likely how many PC players Use windower and likely anyone who tries to Gearswap to break /follow said PC player likely If they have windower, has BlinkMeNot. so /gearswap = Useless

as to Boxing. one simple solution, Lower the cost of Forbidden Keys, though i know this one trick works on brown treasure chests outside Abby, but if the THF key trick works on blue/gold/red Pryx boxes (as i've never asked any thf to try.)

[Wojo]

Minimum lvl 90 would fix that prob fesho.

[Rubeus]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-from-30-to-70

[viion]

Why is there such a problem with leechers? I'm new to abyssea since im returning so I dont understand the whole concept much but it would seem that its about as bad as maybe someone botting by being AFK and letting something else do all the work to level them.

What if you join at 30 but dont go afk? And you do things (or as much as you can for that level) is that just as bad?

Personally I dont mind people having easy ways to level because it doesnt affect my gameplay but i guess being AFK is just kind of rude.

[Alhanelem]

What if you join at 30 but dont go afk? And you do things (or as much as you can for that level) is that just as bad?

usually, this is fine, because these people are doing something useful. mainly, people are complaining about people who go afk without warning and never come back.

[Abadacchus]

I don't think this is SE's job to fix, guys. We have to be to accountable to get those people out of party and make room for someone who actually wants xp/cruor. Drop 'em, re-alli, do what you have to do. If you want this behavior to stop, you will have to stop it when you see it.

Don't be cruel, but be sensible. If a person hasn't said anything, moved, or performed an action for a reasonable amount of time, that player needs to go.

[svengalis]

I find it hilarious how people reject the idea of the game being easier. You want to play a frustrating game with tedious gameplay? LOL This isn't 1990.

[Meyi]

No just No.

If you have a problem with people taking level 30 jobs to get exp in abyssea then don't join those parties. If SE actually did listen to you complainers and raised the level cap on abyssea next thing you be complaining about is how you have nobody to do keys now and how nobody wants to do them because they need their curor for brewing NMs.

This.

We need our key poppers as well. I honestly see nothing wrong with it as long as the person wants to actually learn the job when they get it to 90 (or are leveling it as a subjob).

[Reiii]

I agree with the OP's initial thought that the level cap for these areas should be raised to 70+. However, leeching isn't necessarily the full problem. The problem with allowing level 30 players into these areas to be key whores is that it has a similar effect that summoner burning did. That being; it creates people who do not know how to play their jobs.

When summoner burning was all the rage I can not count how many people I got into exp parties with who were more than obvious products of it simply because they really just didn't play their job right. It wasn't about gear, it was about the fact that they genuinely did not know HOW to play. ( These include Paladins not knowing they had magic nor knowing what provoke is despite having warrior sub, thieves that are level 40+ not knowing what SATA is, these are just some of the examples off of the top of my head. )

So, my worry is that there is going to be a huge uprising of these people who don't know how to play jobs correctly because they didn't have the time to learn how to. They just shot up from level 30 to 75+ in a day.

Now ask yourselves, do you really want to be involved in an important end game event with one of these folks who have no idea what they're doing? I know I certainly wouldn't... And that is why I support a 70+ cap on these areas.

[chrism]

I believe the cap on abyssea should indeed be raised because I believe the economy of Final Fantasy 11 ( depending on which server) Is degrading because players can go inside abyssea... obtain around 70,000 Cruor... buy all 3 Cruor sets for DD/Mage/Thf type jobs and sell them all back to the NPC and make roughly 150,000 Gil... now if thats constantly happening then how is the economy/auction house going to keep flowing for the rest of us not to mention new players, that is my only complaint... Leechers on the other hand need not be invited into an abyssea party I will not work for their XP go get it yourself like I did the old fashioned way.