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    Player Miroku_Asura's Avatar
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    This all could have been solved if they just implemented a forum wide poll on the front page that showed results when this whole thing started. It's not like it's hard to implement or something, considering EVERY OTHER FORUM on the internet has the option to "make a poll"...
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    That is not what it says. Read carefully. Scorpion probably did win, but SE nixed it and made the final call.

    "so, please keep in mind that the dev. team needs to consider all aspects of potential implementation and therefore has to make the final call themselves."

    So basically I bet Scorpion won, then SE said, nah, Hippo will be easier to implement. Why make a comment like that anyways, its like a legal disclaimer.
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    Last edited by xbobx; 10-18-2011 at 10:35 AM.

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    Honestly, each region getting a vote makes sense. If you have one region with a lot more feedback and "voice" then another, it would then be exactly what you are saying "Thats not fair! most of voted for this, so why should this area have a say in it?"

    Its the same has how larger states don't have as much of a voice as smaller states because it would be unfair due to larger states having more people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    For those of you who voted for scorpion, I understand your disappointment. However, please realize that though this was the number one pick for EN players, this selection was based off of all regions. Also, please keep in mind that the dev. team needs to consider all aspects of potential implementation and therefore has to make the final call themselves.

    Trust me when I say that your feedback is not a waste of time and you are not being ignored. I make sure that your opinions are properly conveyed to the development as best as I can and I continue to work with them, following up when necessary, to bring them updates and any new suggestions you have.
    Was it? Because Hippogryph didn't win overall - it was fourth - and that's exactly why we're upset. We didn't expect our favorite to win, we expected the overall favorite to win. Instead, the Japanese favorite won. Is this not the case?

    Also, if the final answer is that the development team made the call- Tell us why they chose the Hippogryph specifically, instead of the Scorpion, Ruszor, and Slime (all of these had more overall votes than the Hippogryph).

    Thank you for responding, but understand that this doesn't have anything to do with us being upset that we don't get the Scorpion- it's purely an issue of fairness. I believe that you do put a lot of work into conveying our feedback to the development team, but I think we're all beginning to seriously question what happens to it after that.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Its the same has how larger states don't have as much of a voice as smaller states because it would be unfair due to larger states having more people.
    You actually have that kind of backwards.
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    Last edited by Selzak; 10-18-2011 at 11:16 AM.

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    House of Representatives gets members (ie: votes) proportional to the state population. Senate gets 2 votes per state, regardless of population.

    And yeah, this was probably an override of scorp for some reason, and they took the next most popular, or something.
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    Player Selzak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    And yeah, this was probably an override of scorp for some reason, and they took the next most popular, or something.
    It was the fourth most popular overall.
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    You see what happemed there? We all should have remembered our high school french and voted for scorp on french forums. But of course we didn't know the poll rules did we? Just vote for your favorite and we'll put it in! Can't believe anybody working for SE would be surprised you have a bunch of pissed off NA when it was worded as it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selzak View Post
    It was the fourth most popular overall.
    You still aren't getting it. I don't know how many more times you need to have it explained to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anathiel View Post
    Just vote for your favorite and we'll put it in! Can't believe anybody working for SE would be surprised you have a bunch of pissed off NA when it was worded as it was.
    It was never worded that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Trust me when I say that your feedback is not a waste of time and you are not being ignored. I make sure that your opinions are properly conveyed to the development as best as I can and I continue to work with them, following up when necessary, to bring them updates and any new suggestions you have.
    Nobody accuses you of not listening to us and conveying our wishes to the dev team, Camate. In fact I'm sure everyone here believes that you're doing as much as you possibly can.

    But it's the development team that isn't listening. There was a democratic vote, our choice had the most votes, and you did your part conveying that fact to the development team. But what did they do? They ignored you, and all non-JP players. In spite of the fact that the JP players' pick was not voted the winner by a majority of players from all regions, they chose it anyway.

    It's a clear example of what many people have suspected since the forums were created: the developers ultimately don't listen to you when you convey our opinions. Our opinions, for the most part, don't matter in the end.
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    If its so hard to implement a scorpion jug, why was it in the voting list in the first place?
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