Summoner staffs...why do we solo these?

[Lilia]

Why you do bp in af2? ... i know your answer, but af3+2 set +trialstaffs is much better.

Af3 set for the buffs and setbonus (dmg*1,5~*2) but the set dont have timer-
for that you have the staffs.
And rly when you do a 9k+ heaven.strike you want bp in af3^^^

Oh and why you cant do a staff for smn AND a staff for whm,blm?

[Zhronne]

Why you do bp in af2? ... i know your answer, but af3+2 set +trialstaffs is much better.

I use AF2 on the first step of BPs usage, this allows me to keep the cooldown down to the cap of 45 seconds without sacrificing damage output.
This gets calculated the second you use the JA, not the moment when the Blood Pact really goes off.
Between the moment when you use it and the moment when your avatar executes the command there are several seconds.
I use the BP in -BP recast gear, then immediately swap to one of the 3 setups (mainly consisting of AF3+2, but not just that since there are better pieces here and there) for Physical BPs, Magical BPs and Buff BPs.
I assumed that was more or less what everybody was doing, but it seems there are people using the same set for everything D:

Oh and why you cant do a staff for smn AND a staff for whm,blm?

Yes and no, depends what you mean.
You can't have the same staff for, say, SMN and BLM, but you could for example get a Surya's staff+3 for SMN and a Surya's staff+2 for BLM.
If you meant the same exact staff then no, can only have one of each so you gotta choose which one you want.

[Lilia]

Hm not sure with with+3 , i dont have many +3 now, but i have many from +2 and same weapon.

is it new with +3 that you can only 1?

[Ezekieal]

I didn't mean to troll, I just wanted to understand. I'm not a particularly skilled SMN, I'm just trying to understand something that I'm probably missing here.
You can very easily cap -bp recast without the staves, so clearly that's not the "interesting stat" on those trial staves, right?
As for the -Perp, with full AF3+2, Augur's legs and HQ staves (or Bahamut's staff) does it really matter? I think I have 2-3 mp/tic refresh with my avatar out, without taking into account weather/day (AF3+2 gloves) or storm spells from /SCH, because if we consider that then the difference is even bigger.

So why bother? It's not like those staves can be completed in 3 hours, it's a fuckton of grinding to do all 8 of them, and it also stops you from doing Healing Staff and elemental staves for other jobs like RDM, BLM or SCH.

So once more, what am I missing here? Sorry if I sound arrogant or something else, I'm just trying to understand what I'm missing. So far I've never been not even the slightest interested in doing those staves for SMN, but I'm more than willing to change my mind if someone shows me good reasons to.

Um why cant you have all 8 and have nuking/healing staves? They arent Rare/Ex they are Aug/Ex.

[Rexen]

The elemental magian trials are not rare, that's just the multi-hit and Empyrean ones. You could have all 3 light staves if you wanted (perp-, damage and accuracy).

As for why the staves are worth it, I had the level 80 ones before the level cap raise and I got all the refresh from my armor and +1 from the ability, so I had a 4 tick refresh with avatars out and no favor. I don't know how you can get that without the staves tbh. I'm missing Oneiros grip and Moonshade earring too so could get more. With the level cap raise I need the level 85 staves to keep the refresh and may as well get the higher ones since they require so little effort. I think they are worth the effort and make a big difference to what you can do as a Summoner without having to worry so much about your MP.

[Yygdrasil]

Why you do bp in af2? ... i know your answer, but af3+2 set +trialstaffs is much better.

Af3 set for the buffs and setbonus (dmg*1,5~*2) but the set dont have timer-
for that you have the staffs.
And rly when you do a 9k+ heaven.strike you want bp in af3^^^
Oh and why you cant do a staff for smn AND a staff for whm,blm?

How are you getting 9k with Heavenly Strike?

I use Ultimate/Beyond and Minikin and I only ever hit 6...MAYBE 7k

[Razushu]

How are you getting 9k with Heavenly Strike?

I use Ultimate/Beyond and Minikin and I only ever hit 6...MAYBE 7k

AF3 +2 set proc I'm assuming.

[Zhronne]

I stand corrected for the multiple staves! Dunno why I was absolutely convinced they were rare.
Shame on me!

[Yygdrasil]

Maybe I'm just unlucky then... I have the full set and I never see that kinda damage.

[Lilia]

right is the max setproc (x2)