[Soap Box] {Lock On} & general charity shouts

[Rearden]

If people will pay me for something, then why wouldn't I sell it assuming I am capable? I am being paid for my time and effort.

Your second statement is misleading, well, it's false. RMT sold R/E Sky gear, the rest was sold by regular players and it has been going on a lot longer than when RMT figured out Sky wasn't hard. Some of those players were RMT, but that's besides the point.

[Toggles]

It started before sky gear >_>

It's unethical to claim a mob and 'force' someone to pay you for the drop all the while knowing that they can not get the drop since you have it claimed. You're creating a false market.

The whole idea of selling R/Ex is unethical and against the whole reason R/Ex was designed. Now I won't pull some ToS b.s. but if you fail to see the poor ethics behind selling timed spawned R/Ex gear then you're just greedy and selfish. More power to you I guess.

I'm the type of person that despite being sent a tell offering me 300k for ninja base feet while I'm farming for other things, I'll happily invite the person and let them have it for free. Why put the screw on your fellow gamer? Because ~you~'re(ambiguous) a d***, that's why.

[Greatguardian]

Ethics has nothing to do with this. There is nothing inherently right or wrong about selling goods and services to other players.

If people feel more entitled to something because "They're using it" rather than "Selling it", that's just another holdover from the olden days of ripping people off. Ever have a Black Mage lot on 500k scrolls in a pickup group because they can "Use it"? Yes, they are ripping everyone else off. 500k is 500k. Everyone could "Use" 500k. Using the scroll or selling the scroll, it makes absolutely no difference. The value of the scroll is the same to everyone, Black Mage or not.

Sure, I might pass on a scroll my friend needs if we get one together. But that is because I am, essentially, being generous and giving him my 500k/(Number of Members) cut of the scroll. That is not because he inherently deserves it more than anyone else.

Most "Old Courtesy" in this game consists primarily of ways people can try to justify ripping each other off.

[Shiyo]

Selling gear is fine.

[Rearden]

I guess that makes me a rich d***

[katz]

There are even worst types out there. They say lock 2 items but when something else drops they say that was locked too....

[katz]

Ethics has nothing to do with this. There is nothing inherently right or wrong about selling goods and services to other players.

If people feel more entitled to something because "They're using it" rather than "Selling it", that's just another holdover from the olden days of ripping people off. Ever have a Black Mage lot on 500k scrolls in a pickup group because they can "Use it"? Yes, they are ripping everyone else off. 500k is 500k. Everyone could "Use" 500k. Using the scroll or selling the scroll, it makes absolutely no difference. The value of the scroll is the same to everyone, Black Mage or not.

Sure, I might pass on a scroll my friend needs if we get one together. But that is because I am, essentially, being generous and giving him my 500k/(Number of Members) cut of the scroll. That is not because he inherently deserves it more than anyone else.

Most "Old Courtesy" in this game consists primarily of ways people can try to justify ripping each other off.

I totally disagree with people who charge for their services on items that are ex/rare. There was a point to SE making the said articule Ex/Rare in the first place and not just allowing people to sell it on the ah. Why should you then decide i want to make other players pay for it.

[Kimble]

SE has said there is nothing with it before and will not ban you for it. So, if its OK by them, its ok to do.

[Greatguardian]

When people win a claim, they win the right to anything the monster drops, whether it's the right to keep the items or sell them is up to them. If they lose that claim, you have the chance to claim that right from them.

Likewise, if you don't like that X player is spamming Charybdis just to sell the sword or something similar, just outclaim them. You have as good a chance as they do, assuming equal levels of speed, skill, and attention.

SE has always allowed players to do pretty much whatever they want in terms of finances. No one is getting scammed. People are just purchasing the right to lot on an item.

[katz]

The trouble is the playing fields arent level out there. We all know people who use windower to see mobs "appear" long time before anyone else can see them. The amount of server lags also disadvantages the non pc users. So its not just everyone has the same chance of claiming the mobs, some people have a greater chance.