Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

[Raksha]

there was testing on BG (please dont ask for a link as i do not have it, i did not think i would have to keep it for proof) using libra and i think dia, dont quote me on the spell used. the spell occasionally generated no enmity.

any idea who did the testing? which forum it was in? random question thread? mathy parts? any information at all?

[Sira]

i believe it was in one of the ask a question threads, and i believe the way he tested it was he had someone pull via missed boomerang. he posted his test sample on the forums somewhere.

edit there was also some testing done in the final magian empyreal armor thread.

[Raksha]

i believe it was in one of the ask a question threads, and i believe the way he tested it was he had someone pull via missed boomerang. he posted his test sample on the forums somewhere.

edit there was also some testing done in the final magian empyreal armor thread.

I've searched bg, ffxiah, alla, and the official forums and still haven't found it. How long ago was it posted?

[Zhronne]

there was testing on BG (please dont ask for a link as i do not have it, i did not think i would have to keep it for proof) using libra and i think dia, dont quote me on the spell used. the spell occasionally generated no enmity.

Yep that's the one I Read. It had a very small sample though, and they didn't use Dia only, that was just the main spell of the test.
Think it was BG for sure! But it might have been Alla.

I guess the sample was so small that we can't be sure that's the effect, but if I had to give a % estimate it would be over 90% as far as I can tell :P


@Rak
As for when it was posted uhm... I dunno, but I more or less remember when I read it, and I think it was around may 2011

[Raksha]

Well I've been searching for 2 hours now and still haven't found it, so I'm going to have to call shenanigans.

Anyone else know/remember this testing?

[Sira]

seriously? lol

with a vague search i've come across testing that shows reduction of VE, kegsay did it and afaik he's pretty reliable when it comes to testing.

if you cant find anything in 2 hours, and i found something in 5 minutes, you are obviously doing it wrong.

[Eric]

seriously? lol

with a vague search i've come across testing that shows reduction of VE, kegsay did it and afaik he's pretty reliable when it comes to testing.

if you cant find anything in 2 hours, and i found something in 5 minutes, you are obviously doing it wrong.

How about you post a link instead of just complaining about how she can't find it?

[Sira]

i gave her a name, which makes it oh so much easier to find, im not here to baby you. additionally for those skeptical about what you hear about the testing, you should probably go test it yourself.

the seriously comment was that her saying the people that told her this, being told the same information by more than one person, and she pulls the shenanigans card. gives me reason to believe that she is no where motivated to actually find out the effect.


seriously though, it's incredibly easy to test to verify it yourself, we would have no reason to lie about it, so i cannot understand why you want to pull the bullshit card and expect people to hold your hand through the entire process. if it really took you 2 hours, which i seriously doubt, in that time you could have an extended test sample even on worms in la thiene.

or is it that bad that you would like me to go give you a sample myself?

[Raksha]

Did you find it on BG? i did a search for gown and posts by kegsay and all i came up with was this:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/984...wn#post4417687

And the post right after that is me telling him "Nice work"

That post actually shows no effect.

And as for the other stuff, i was at work while i was searching, so couldnt test. I did a small test myself way back when but couldn't identify an effect.

On a personal note, sorry for coming off as hostile, I'm just tired of all these half baked theories popping up and people who "read something somewhere some time about a thing that might do something" and then getting it muddled up in their heads that it was proven.

P.S. I'm actually a dude, character is a chick (long story)

[Sira]

equally as sorry, i have witnessed the 0% enmity on nukes myself, so i know full well it works. and i know how you feel about it, it's precisely why i and many other dnc mains have issues with rosina.

and lol at the gender confusion, seems to be a lot of it.