Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

[Delvish]

I agree. It balances out quite nicely, considering you spend practically the time you gain from Alacrity/Celerity just using all the stratagems.

[Eric]

I'm fine with stratagems taking up a few seconds before every cast, it means I can have 50% mp usage, 50% recast time, and 25% more damage to my nukes in the same amount of time that a BLM would cast one spell with manafont.

EDIT: Not that we're trying to out-do BLM or anything. It is just a 2hr spell after all.

[Sasaraixx]

More SCH news today. I'm home sick, so I'll post my little translation.

Just like PUPs yesterday, the dev team decided to give us an idea of what they are thinking about for us on the road to 99. I'm . . . well. Take a look for yourself.

1. Have Light Arts affect Regen effects and Dark Arts affect Helix spell effects.
2. Adjust the levels at which Regen III/IV are learned.
3. Adjust the levels at which Helix spells are learned and adjust MP cost.
4. Adjust the recast for Modus Veritas.
5. Adjust the effect duration of Klimaform.
6. Tabula Rasa adjustments.

Also, the version update is confirmed for next Monday.

I am happy that some of these changes are directly from the feedback we've been giving them.

I guess this confirms that we will be receiving Regen IV. (I don't see why they would comment on adjustments to the WHM spells in the SCH forum).

However, I'm very concerned about item #3. I really do not see the need for Helix spells to become subable. I assume they are doing this because we will receive Tier II helix spells but I really don't see the need to adjust the Tier I helices. This is particularly true if the change to Dark Arts will be available via /SCH. I think I would have rather this change be made for weather spells so that we could receive double weather effects.

I also hope that the boost to Klimaform is for SCH main. It seems as though the spell is going to be available from /SCH. I would hope that our AF spell could be better utilized by SCH mains.

I still see no mention of adjusting Aldoquium or Animus spells either :/ It is a start though. Let's keep reminding them of our issues!

[Sasaraixx]

And just as an FYI, the Japanese Scholars are NOT happy!

[Merton9999]

And just as an FYI, the Japanese Scholars are NOT happy!

This is really what I was afraid of when they said they'd be paying more attention to SCH. Another move in the style of past adjustments - sounds promising at first, then the result is a letdown.

1. Regen and Helix adjustments again could be nice, or lolmehwhocares. As usual they say "affect" with no indication of in what way or how much. I really wish they wouldn't mention it at all. It makes me hope for the best and fear the worst, which I'm really sick of at this point. To make me even care about Regen light arts would have to increase the potency, reduce casting time more and increase duration without purpetuance, especially if this is the help we're getting in the healing department without Cure V.

2. I also hope this means we get Regen IV, but again "adjust" is meaningless. They might as well say "We're going to do something with something." ><

3. I agree with you on Helix levels. I don't want other jobs subbing these or subbing them myself on other jobs. I also agree I'd rather see this with weather so all jobs can sub all tier 1 storms, but SCH main can then boost them to tier two with a geomancy spell or JA.

4 and 5 sound OK but not exciting. I'm not looking forward to MV missing every 5 minutes instead of 10. Maybe if it were 2 minutes. Again I agree Klimaform should not be boosted as a subjob spell. I don't mind that it's available to subs but it should be more potent in SCH's hands.

As far as Adloquium is concerned, I keep thinking about this in relation to Embrava. If you think about it, they took the suggestions we've had for Regen, Regain and Haste and mashed them up into one spell we can only use as a 2 hour. Want to AOE Haste? OK, every two hours. Want a higher tier regen? OK, every two hours. Want a more potent Adloquium? OK, every two hours.

I wouldn't be surprised if SE added tier 2 weather effects for SCH now given this new trend. Except we can only grant the effect every 3rd real life day on a full moon. Oh, and only under Tabula Rasa ... and they can miss ...

[Raksha]

Just posting to say that sasa and merton said everything i was thinking.

[Camate]

I got some info to give you all an idea of what the development is already working on for future scholar adjustments.

The next job adjustment focus will be on Light Arts and Dark Arts.
Below is the concept:

1. Make adjustments so that Light Arts affects the effect of Regen and Dark Arts affects the effect of Helix spells
2. Adjust the level Regen III/IV are learned
3. Adjust the level Helix spells are learned as well as their MP cost
4. Adjust the recast timer of Modus Veritas
5. Adjust the effect duration of Klimaform
6. Make adjustments to Tabula Rasa

We will be posting more information here on the forum as well as adding things to the test server some time after the September version update.

[Eric]

I wouldn't be surprised if SE added tier 2 weather effects for SCH now given this new trend. Except we can only grant the effect every 3rd real life day on a full moon. Oh, and only under Tabula Rasa ... and they can miss ...

LOL I died. I'm sure that's what they mean by "6. Tabula Rasa adjustments. "

Speaking of. . . I love the fact that our 2HR is getting buffed, but really . . .? They can't find something more important to change? I am perfectly happy with the new adjustments to Tabula Rasa that are coming on Monday.

I also want to say that I agree with everything sasa and merton are saying. It also gives me some comfort to know that the JP scholars are just as annoyed as we are.

[Oscar71]

Wondering if helix spells are going to become sub-able

[Granny]

what happened to adjustments to Light and Dark arts effects scaleing to the level of the scholar like casting time/recast time reduced, and mp cost reduced as level increase. Is that still coming...?