Information on inventory relief, via staff consolidation, efforts

[Seriha]

Unless SE suddenly bans gear swaps when a mob has enmity on you (and the fallout from that would be classic), the difference between one staff and eight is the inventory space if you're constantly swapping. They'll have done all the work. It's not like killing an E.Ron rabbit and getting The Prima Pole of Prismatic Pwnage. Who knows, maybe the Occult Accumen trait could actually be used.

[Alhanelem]

the difference between one staff and eight is the inventory space if you're constantly swapping

No it's not, because those staves all have attributes that go beyond the element-specific enhancement. Having all of those stats and skill bonuses and such at the same time would most certainly be stronger all together than having to switch between them. How much is something you can argue, but it would be more advantageous than just having the general magic bonus. The dev team clearly feels that there must be some kind of trade-off for not having to switch between the staves. To them, it's not just a matter of inventory space.

Again, I'm not necessarily endorsing this, but in my view, that's how they are seeing it.

[Yugl]

It's not a bogus remark. It would be like consolodating all situational gear for <job>'s <insert gear slot here> slot into one item.

Yes, that is why it's called consolidation. Again, the same strength for less inventory. The benefit of the staffs already exists and they're not mutually exclusive insofar as owning one staff along X element prevents you from obtaining the Y element equivalent.

"All magic damage +20% in the elemental staff slot of the equation"
<insert all other individual ele. staff benefits here>

too powerful. Maybe we don't, but they do, and that's why it doesn't happen. That's all I'm saying.

If that's so powerful that it will never happen, then why did SE give us a staff with affinity damage+30% corresponding to each element in addition to other beneficial stats?

Umm... the Magian staves are the situational pieces. Each staff for a different avatar, or two that benefit all of them. Hmm... tough decision, especially considering you don't need them for their perpetuaiton at all, only for pet MAB...

Oh, ya it's situational when I use my Indra Staff+2 alright. Sometimes I just feel I need to do less damage than I can afford, so I just don't equip my staff and leave on Terra's Staff. Yep.

Edit: The only sacrifice, apart from inventory, is TP. Of course, that puts SE in a bind with what they want. They want to give us crap like occult acumen. They don't actually want us using it though; they just want us to build TP and then dump it.

[Kari]

I'm not a huge mage player, but I definitely agree that the amount of staves you'd need to carry around is ridiculous.
You might not NEED all of them, but if you want to play to the best of your ability [in other words, not be gimp], you'll probably be carrying most of them.

I'm not sure why they didn't make the Empyrean Staff have a combined effect of magian staves. Even then, some jobs that aren't on it would still require other staves.

I can only imagine if they gave DDs this kind of inventory wasting to be good.
Imagine having to equip a full armor set to get the potency of an effect that we currently get from 1 piece.
For example, we get +30 Seconds to Sambas with the Dancer's Tiara. Imagine if instead, we got +5 Seconds from 6 different pieces, and all of these pieces had no other use. And then do this with a few other abilities and such.
Probably a terrible example, but that's how I'd feel if I was on a mage job 24/7 carrying around so many sticks.

[Orenwald]

I can only imagine if they gave DDs this kind of inventory wasting to be good.

my NIN is 71/80... I don't see your point lol

[Dodu]

No it's not, because those staves all have attributes that go beyond the element-specific enhancement. Having all of those stats and skill bonuses and such at the same time would most certainly be stronger all together than having to switch between them. How much is something you can argue, but it would be more advantageous than just having the general magic bonus. The dev team clearly feels that there must be some kind of trade-off for not having to switch between the staves. To them, it's not just a matter of inventory space.

Again, I'm not necessarily endorsing this, but in my view, that's how they are seeing it.

You may as well petition for the separation of all offensive physical attributes. The hell with this Adaman Hauberk and its generalized 'attack' on it, that needs to say 'Great Axe Attack'.

[Khiinroye]

Nin is an excellent example, since it already had this sort of thing happen for it. Imagine if you have to carry, in instead of your universal tools:

Uchitake
Tsurara
Kawahori-ogi
Makibishi
Hiraishin
Mizu-deppo
Jusatsu
Kaginawa
Sairui-ran
Kodoku
Soshi
Jinko
Kabenro
Mokujin

You might already carry these around already as non-universal tools:
Shinobi-tabi
Sanjaku-tenugui
Shihei

That's 14-17 inventory there, minus 3 for space back from universal tools. Your 71/80 ninja would be at 82/80 to 85/80.

The same applies with corsair, who went from cards for every element of shots to universal cards.

[JWhiskey]

Myself personally, I would be happy with the staves consolidated down to two; an aura staff (light aligned magic) and a void staff (dark aligned magic), each with three paths (DMG, ACC, -perp). Aside from the elemental affinity they could put moderate stats and resists from each of the staves elements and maybe make the aura staff -pdt and void staff -mdt.

[Dodu]

Or they could skip the unnecessary lore and give us.. damage staves, macc. staves, and perpetuation staves. Its an extreme amount of busywork for a very reasonable reward, and we'd still be carrying around, at least, Terra's and Surya's.

[Alhanelem]

Yes, that is why it's called consolidation. Again, the same strength for less inventory.

THe whole reason SE created situational gear in the first place is because they consider having many effects on one item - even if you can carry multiple items that have those effects in total - too strong, or at least stronger. They want people to decide what to bring with them, rather than bringing everything.

Again, I'm just giving you their perspective. I'd love it if I could just have one set of items that does everything. But that's really not likely to happen.

That's 14-17 inventory there, minus 3 for space back from universal tools. Your 71/80 ninja would be at 82/80 to 85/80.

The same applies with corsair, who went from cards for every element of shots to universal cards.

There is a trade-off though: The universal tools and cards cost more. They feel there must always be a tradeoff for convenience like this, it seems.