[dev1015] Still no Abyssea VNM adjustments still a major point of congestion

[Karbuncle]

Just pointing out you can't gold box the bat KI.

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They added all Key items in those zones to Gold Chests. Was that one exempt or something o.o?

[Zagen]

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They added all Key items in those zones to Gold Chests. Was that one exempt or something o.o?

Actually no they didn't they only added Timed Pop KIs for Emp NMs to Gold boxes.

Edit: Sobek and Amhuluk still require killing a NM for the last KI.

Edit2: Here's the list for reference from the update post:
Tunga / Amun / Gukumatz / Heqet / Lord Varney / Hrosshvalur

[Helel]

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They added all Key items in those zones to Gold Chests. Was that one exempt or something o.o?

No they didn't. They only added the KI's needed to pop NMs that drop empyrean items. There are still roaming NMs, such as the bat, the dog in attohwa, and the imp in vunkerl, that you will need to kill in order to get the KI.

A better example for the devs would be the orobon. If you charged whisker burn, it takes about 10-60m to get 3 pops for the fish (depending on luck etc.). It never takes more than 60m for 3 pops. For the VNM, not only do you have to wait 10-15m for them to pop, but you might not claim it, and even if you do claim it, your abyssite might not upgrade. I would like the devs to personally log onto a real server and try this out for themselves so they can see how much fun this system is.

Nobody has mentioned it (I don't think), but you could always make the t3 abyssite a rare drop from gold chests. Every other empyrean can be completed solely through gold chest farming, so why not shield/harp?

[Arcon]

The development team is in fact aware there is a difference in drop rates between the Abyssea zones for Colorless Souls. They will be making fixes in the upcoming version update to make the drop rates in each zone equal.

Watch them reduce all drop rates to Brulo level.

[Zagen]

Nobody has mentioned it (I don't think), but you could always make the t3 abyssite a rare drop from gold chests. Every other empyrean can be completed solely through gold chest farming, so why not shield/harp?

I mentioned that idea a bit back as a joke because SE believes the Harp/Shield need to be harder to get than the weapons.

A correction Katana and Sword cannot be completed via gold box farming not even to 85 stage as the Bugard KI isn't in the Gold Boxes.

[Seriha]

Same applies for the Corse in Chasm. Still need to kill the hound for the collar KI. Don't think Vunk has that issue, oddly.

I actually wouldn't be against T4 VNMs being added to the prior 6 zones that would also drop souls, but since T3 shatters on pop, maybe make it a 100% on red if not at least a modest rate. Compared to the Heroes ones, though, they should be harder. Would be kinda interesting if they revamped the Ark Angels, but not sure what they'd do for the sixth mob.

[detlef]

Imp KI in Vunkerl is not in gold box. Ditto with hound in Attohwa and Bat in Misareaux.

[Leonlionheart]

The hell? I've gotten all of these in boxes except for Titlacauan KI's.

Edit: Maybe not the imp, but I seem to remember that being in a box. My memory just doesn't care atm.

[detlef]

Your memory is wrong even if it doesn't care.

They added time spawn NM ki in addition to the other 4 ki they provided already for a total of 6 ki per zone. In Vunkerl, only Durinn requires you to actually kill NM (imp and dvergr). In Misareaux, you'll need to kill bugard for Sobek and bat for Amhuluk. And in Attohwa you have to kill the hound, doomed, and ghost. There is a weird lack of symmetry between zones when it comes to ki for whatever reason.

[detlef]

I think adjusting Brulo and Maere colorless soul drop rates is a good first step. SE will probably continue to monitor the situation, but I think pushing people out of Ule will actually help a lot.