Sooo SE actually wants to know the numbers of PS2 users eh?

[TetsujinX]

This is still ignoring one major fact though. From an admittedly miniscule sample size, about half of the players play on console rather than PC.Amongst those the number of ps2 users is greater than anyone would like to admit. Until the 360 version is made more reliable, cutting the PS2 loose is just not a good business move.

While I am a fan of the PS2(overall), I am not letting that fact alone dictate my desicion to play on PS2. Even if I had a Pc right now, I would probably still use the PS2 for the game for 3 reasons. It would be a shared computer between 3 people, 2 of which need it for work, and 2 of which need it for school. Secondly, I just prefer to game on consoles. Personal preference I know, but still a valid reason for me. And finally, the unreliablity of the 360 port, which consdering the fact that it truly is just a stripped down PC should be a lot better than it is. Speaking for myself only, if my options were reduced to just the 360(as would be the case if sony support were dropped tonight) I would have to quit. I can't enjoy the game if I have to reset, and possibly reinstall every gaming session.

[FrankReynolds]

This is still ignoring one major fact though. From an admittedly miniscule sample size, about half of the players play on console rather than PC.Amongst those the number of ps2 users is greater than anyone would like to admit. Until the 360 version is made more reliable, cutting the PS2 loose is just not a good business move.

While I am a fan of the PS2(overall), I am not letting that fact alone dictate my desicion to play on PS2. Even if I had a Pc right now, I would probably still use the PS2 for the game for 3 reasons. It would be a shared computer between 3 people, 2 of which need it for work, and 2 of which need it for school. Secondly, I just prefer to game on consoles. Personal preference I know, but still a valid reason for me. And finally, the unreliablity of the 360 port, which consdering the fact that it truly is just a stripped down PC should be a lot better than it is. Speaking for myself only, if my options were reduced to just the 360(as would be the case if sony support were dropped tonight) I would have to quit. I can't enjoy the game if I have to reset, and possibly reinstall every gaming session.

I left my 360 running with mules in rolanberry fields for like 2 years and never had to reinstall. 1208 Days of playtime currently on my main. Over half of which is on 360. You are making false claims. The only honest thing you said is that you prefer PS2.

[TetsujinX]

Right i am making false claims. I definitely didn't freeze up everytime i attended any LS event. I was totally dreaming when I froze in abyssea in the middle of a briarius fight and had to reinstall losing me both my time in abyssea and the zone win. My LS decided to leave me out of events just because they don't like me, not because i freeze everytime there is more than 12 sprites on the screen. I made all of this up JUST to spite you becaus enothing microsoft makes is ever flawed. EVER. No one has ever complained about the game freezing during beseiged and dynamis. I am just coming up with all of these things because I hate the 360 so much that I bought one instead of the PS3. Maybe squenix and Microsoft purposely do something so that only my 360 freezes when i play FFXi in an effort to make me quit, because that hate my money that much...

All that being said here comes the actual reply...

You are in the minority if yous has NEVER frozen on FFXI. Of course it could just be that your 360 is newer than mine, but who has the cash to go out and buy a newer version everytime it comes out? Just because YOURS doesn't freeze on this game doesn't meant that NO ONES freezes. Out of my 7(excluding myself) rl friends that play the game on 360 4 have the exact same problem, but I guess they are making it up too. If 4/7 in RL and 3 out of 5(estimate. I just know a metric shit ton were either laughin at or crying about it) people were making fun of the same problem in shouting matches in whitegate, I myself could not call that a fabrication.

[Tsuneo]

How about you just both play on the superior platform. Honestly though 360 isn't the problem in FFXI. I personally can't stand playing on consoles, but 360 definitely isn't holding FFXI back at all. Also, freezing or not freezing isn't really an issue relevant in this thread. Such things don't really affect the future of the game. Those things are just inconveniences to the player at the time.

[zanlabik]

Instead of grabbing pitchforks and torches and chasing the PS2 out of town, maybe SE will find a way to work around the HDD and get rid of it.

All I know is, if I had to move to 360 or PC I would quit playing.

Viva la PS2!!

[Tsuneo]

How exactly can you get rid of a storage device? That doesn't make much sense to me.

[Leonlionheart]

Instead of grabbing pitchforks and torches and chasing the PS2 out of town, maybe SE will find a way to work around the HDD and get rid of it.

All I know is, if I had to move to 360 or PC I would quit playing.

Viva la PS2!!

Well actually that's impossible, as stated several HUNDRED times on this forum.

Yeah, Sony actually only partitions 10gb of space possible per game and it really has nothing to do with SE.

Only way around this, toss the friggen thing. It's a totally low quality way to play in the first place.

[Eric]

I don't really understand why all of these PS2 enthusiasts are so delusional. I'm going to reiterate some of the points I made, and add some new ones in a tl;dr format, since apparently forming a well-thought argument using paragraphs is how you get PS2 users to ignore your posts.

1. If you're too poor to afford a $60 computer on eBay, then you have bigger problems to worry about than not being able to play FFXI. Quitting and spending all that time and money trying to find a higher-paying job (or trying to get that promotion at McDonald's, etc.) would be the smart thing to do.
   
2. The PS2 population is only decreasing. Consoles break, people quit. There are no new players starting the game on PS2 for a huge variety of reasons. The 2 other platforms are still bringing in new players. You delusional PS2 players are not the majority (or even that large of a chunk) of the player base.
   
3. If you want to play with a controller, buy a $10 controller adapter for your PC, and voila! You can now play on PC with a PS2 controller.
   
4. Like it or not, there are PS2 limitations holding the game back. Hard drive space, inventory space. SE has specifically said these two things are PS2 limitations.
   
5. I hope your PS2 hard drive malfunctions like mine did a few months ago. (I use it to play Resident Evil: Outbreak. I wouldn't willingly put myself through the pain of playing FFXI on PS2.)

[Gilraen]

I play the PS2 version almost exclusively. I started on the PS2 back a few months before Treasures was released. I don't much like playing on the PC (and I actually do hate Microsoft so no 360 in my game room) because the PC version behaves really strangely from what I've seen (yes, I do maintain a PC install for when those PS2 limitations rear their ugly heads). Dusk and dawn occur on the PC version in almost jarring bursts, no transition at all. Names spawn with the targets killing what is a useful visual cue for aggro range on the PS2. There's other issues on top of those but they're are many small little quips like subdued colors and flat textures. Now, I say I play the PS2 version and not just PS2 because I do have one of those old PS3s ( a 60g, complete with it's hardware BC) and, honestly, I would stop playing if I couldn't use the PS2 version anymore. It's hard to get around the various oddities of the PC version.

All that said, I did not check Windows PC in the survey because I don't play on Windows. I play on Ubuntu via Wine. Yeah, I don't like Microsoft. At all. Period.

[Leonlionheart]

Honestly, everyone says they're going to quit.

1 month after that, they'll come back.

JUST DO IT SE.