New rule: stop shooting down good ideas by saying "PS2 limitations".

[Eth]

When someone makes a proposal intended to enhance everyone's experience playing the game, discuss the merits of the idea alone, and let SE worry about PS2 limitations.

[cidbahamut]

Awww, I was hoping this was gonna be someone calling SE out on their lame excuse for not giving us nice things.

Now I has a sad.

[RAIST]

The problem is, it is a reality.

There are limits in the legacy portions of the code that SE cannot replace until AFTER the PS2 is dropped as a supported platform...and that is if they are willing to update the source and re-assemble those portions of the code after that hardware is out of the picture.

So, there are some things that simply CAN'T happen as long as the PS2 hardware is supported. That's why that response continually comes up--until those PS2 specific limitting factors go away, such changes won't happen so long as SE wants to keep platforms on equal footing and one of those platforms is the PS2.

[Korpg]

Well, generally when I state "PS2limitations" in reality it is either one of two responses:

1) Sarcasm (generally you can safely assume this is the case)
2) Answering why the implication isn't feasible and will not be implemented.

Generally speaking, the first response is the one I'm implying, however there has been a couple of posts that the second one is appropriate. In those cases, I generally follow up on that.

[AyinDygra]

The reason players should stop posting that reply, is because players do not know the actual limitations the PS2 puts on any given proposal.

Making posts assuming the PS2 can't handle something, or claiming that there is no possible programming work-around are not constructive comments for a discussion board. Many times, I think those who say such things simply want to vent their frustration with SE for not implementing good suggestions, so when people bring up suggestions that they like less (or any suggestion at all), they cite "PS2 Limitations" to show the annoyance they have with SE giving that answer time and time again (and is not directed at the person putting forth the idea).

[Ank]

The problem is, it is a reality.

True, but the full scope of the issue isn't exactly known to the layman. We can guess and say this or that isn't possible do to limitations, but I agree that its best to let SE shoot ideas down for that reason, for the most part.

[Romanova]

I'm sorry, we looked into adding this new rule to the FFXI official forums. But after looking at it, the devs realized that the limit of the ps2 makes adding this impossible. Thanks for the suggestion!

[Zagen]

The reason players should stop posting that reply, is because players do not know the actual limitations the PS2 puts on any given proposal.

Making posts assuming the PS2 can't handle something, or claiming that there is no possible programming work-around are not constructive comments for a discussion board. Many times, I think those who say such things simply want to vent their frustration with SE for not implementing good suggestions, so when people bring up suggestions that they like less (or any suggestion at all), they cite "PS2 Limitations" to show the annoyance they have with SE giving that answer time and time again (and is not directed at the person putting forth the idea).

There is a huge list of what should be obvious things that can't go into the game because of "PS2 limitations" you don't have to work at Sony to have common sense about how PS2 technology is limited especially when its 11 year old tech. Yet a lot of those obvious things have been offered as suggestions in the past and will likely still be offered/re-offered in the future.

[Ryce]

I, for one, am excited about the new direction of things around this game.

High-res icons, Test server access - sorry PS2, no soup for you.

I think these little steps point towards a willingness by SE to do more with this game than the PS2 has allowed them. Don't be shocked when you see Windows (maybe 360) exclusive game content droppin.

[Octaviane]

True, but the full scope of the issue isn't exactly known to the layman. We can guess and say this or that isn't possible do to limitations, but I agree that its best to let SE shoot ideas down for that reason, for the most part.

SE doesn't necessarily "shoot" ideas down, but I do agree that the full scope of the problem is unknown, especially to the average player. SE has never come out and said that they can't implement something because of PS2 limitations, even though the majority of us know it or think we do.

SE is fully aware of the issue as well as the problems experienced by many Xbox users.

I don't see support of PS2 going away anytime soon because, believe it or not, there are stll a large number of people who still use consoles. More likely to happen is that it will die a slow death as and when players switch from consoles to other platforms. Even if SE decides to drop support, I am sure they will give adequate notice.