MNK/WAR tank I'm confused Please Assist

[Deadplaything]

I actually did "Better than one" assault the other day it was surprising how much I missed with all my merits and acc, Abyssea does make us lazy.

[MarkovChain]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/223548
thats my chakra set , and im @ around 72/80 with just the gear , im missing 4 items to finish my pdt set

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/228624
pdt set missing the 2 earrings . and then the legs / feet debating on just buying the shantoto for 4% on legs instead of making my own +1 legs/feet since im 100 smithing.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/223667
outside abyssea vs my byakkos have 5stp 4crit dmg

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/228690
Eva

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/228692
Mdt

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/228693
defualt tp set

thats most of it.

Even though it's not the subject your "outside ws set" is fail. STR > all except for DA and TA.

[Gokku]

Even though it's not the subject your "outside ws set" is fail. STR > all except for DA and TA.

except for the fact VS is a crit hit ws and without RR outside of abyssea your crit rate takes a massive drop. my "massive fail" is -5-15 str for an additional 8% crit rate while closing the D dex gap that occurs outside abyssea.

[Diasetsu]

except for the fact VS is a crit hit ws and without RR outside of abyssea your crit rate takes a massive drop. my "massive fail" is -5-15 str for an additional 8% crit rate while closing the D dex gap that occurs outside abyssea.

Ya know you have Dex-11 between Hands and Belt right? If you knew what you were talking about, and actually trying to close that gap, you'd use at the very least Black Belt, augment a Warwolf Belt, or swing dex +13 on waist alone and use a Pipilaka Belt. You aren't helping dDex with that set. But you are right that STR isn't the end all for VS outside of Abyssea.

[Gokku]

i know im not capping Ddex, the bonus from byakkos dex out does the minus of using heafoc / belt while still offering a straight 70-80dmg increase on all ws.

put it this way i have all the gear nessisary to make any change to my monk / VS set if someone can post some solid math disproving my set vs another set ill make the changes.

[Diasetsu]

An augmented Shura Kabuto+1 should beat out that mask ya use to start. Also for any Voidwatch or higher level Dynamis NMs accuracy is going to factor into WS also. There is no way that you are anywhere near acc cap with that setup on any mob that's worth using a different set than what you'd use inside Abyssea. I haven't seen any hard data on VS crit bonus at 100%TP etc., but knowing base crit rate for what you mainly use that set for would help to further give you suggestions on what to adjust. Those Haidate might not be helping you as much as you think compared to str pants. Obviously str+6 haidate are very nice, but I don't expect or demand anyone having random pool agumented awesomeness.

[Gokku]

ive thought about getting kabuto+1 and trying for aug's on it only 1 cursed kabuto-1 gets sold a month on our sever so its gonna be a bitch to catch it on AH. after looking at what i can get with perfect aug's im definitely going to start saving up tatters / hunting for -1.

[Monchat]

your crit damage +4% most likely loses to usukane haidate, definatly to hachiryu. Hell a calmecac is better. If you have 15% crit hit rate, this stats improves your damage by 4% 15% of the time, by nothing 85% of the time, not factoring accuracy. If you assume acritical hits is 1.8 times a normal hit, you get

(0.15*1.04*1.8+0.85*1.0)/(0.15*1.8+0.85)=1.0096=+0.96% damage. Not much. say you WS in ~170 STR, that brings about 84 WS mods if the 0.83 factor is still valid. +5 STR gives you now +3 DMG. 377 skill give 44 DMG, +35 from weapon. Your new DMG is 35+44+87=166. Old damage is 163. 166/163=1.018=+1.18%, so yeah, a basic shura haidate is better ( outside abyssea), let alone usukane haidate, calmecac trousers or hachiryu haidate. Now if teh +5 STR only give you +2 DMG then the 10 attack on usukane fill the gap nicely.

No, your are not getting high dDEX with that gear, and 15% crit rate is already assuming your are far above monster's AGI.

Outside of abyssea the general rule is multi hit > STR > crit % or dmg. Exception is leg because hachiryu>usukane>calmecac>???.

Dont bother with DEX build outside abyssea, you won't succeed, you'l sacrifice too much multi hit or STR. Also personally I try to keep my accuracy comparable in melee and WS, heafoc and bier belt dont help with that, even though they are the best in abyssea.

[Diasetsu]

Don't forget you have Impetus 60% of the time also, pushing avg crit rate up. I'm pretty sure generic shura doesn't beat byakko. Even though as Impetus's crit dmg bonus increases, it devalues Byakko's +4.

[Gokku]

how does it devalue it , since your not capping crit dmg+?